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[–] aelwero@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago (62 children)

Jesus fucking Christ...

Is this to suggest that out of all the options in the DNC, Biden is not just the best one available, but the only person in the DNC capable of winning an election against fucking trump?!?

That is a hella sad implication.

It's kinda sad as well that after four years at the helm (arguably), the best the dude can go with as a campaign is to just drag out the same lame ass "I'm not trump" he ran on last time... Not that "I'm not trump" isn't worthy of a vote, it is in my opinion, but shit man, you can't hold up anything else, after 4 years?

Anyone know who's going on the libertarian ticket next year?

[–] teft@startrek.website 36 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Just like Hillary was the only person who could beat him in 2016…

I feel like we’re sleepwalking into a dictatorship because of old fucks thinking they know better and that now is their time.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately we're in a position this election cycle where our options are vote for old fuck, or let Nazi old fuck win.
I'm not thrilled about it either but it's something we can sort out after this election cycle. There's a much larger and important issue on the table than age and it needs to be dealt with first.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm not thrilled about it either but it's something we can sort out after this election cycle

Said everyone who ever defended the preferred candidate of the DNC to someone with actual ideals and principles every single election cycle for the last 40+ years.

That's how we got to a situation where a Trump presidency was anything but a throwaway joke from The Simpsons that was supposed to be over the top satire.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Do you seriously think Biden's age is more important than allowing the US to fall into a Nazi dictatorship?

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

No. His age is a minor thing. It's (almost) everything ELSE about him that should preclude him from being the only alternative to fascism.

He's for sure the lesser evil compared to Trump, by miles, and I hope everyone who can votes for him, but that doesn't mean that he's not still an evil.

An extremely ambitious politician from Pennsylvania doesn't just move to tiny little Delaware for reasons unrelated to it being the most corporation-friendly state in the union and "the Senator from MBNA" is no exception.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

STFU. Name another presidency in the last 50 years that has been more progressive than Biden. We’ll fucking wait. SMH.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

That of Obama and even that of Clinton, when you adjust for the general public being much less progressive AND much less informed in the 90s than now.

That Biden made a good cabinet appointment or two on the advice of people more progressive than himself and his PR department hailed the infrastructure bill as saving the environment (even though it stipulates a manifold increase in federal fossil fuel leases before any new renewable energy programs are allowed to even BEGIN and privatizes more public infrastructure than it funds) doesn't mean that Biden, a conservative barely if at all to the left of Joe Manchin, is progressive.

In conclusion, YOU are the one who needs to STFU and stop drinking the neoliberal kool-aid.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)
[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Your opinion pieces are not fact, boot licker. Now leave me alone.

[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago

Your opinion is from the bottom of the boot. At least the opinion pieces have references. Please include some of your own or STFU. I’ll wait.

[–] Necronomicommunist@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

This election cycle? This will be the third election cycle where the only thing going for dems is "well you don't want the other guy, so you???"

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

4th. Second time, Obama had been governing as a neoliberal rather than the progressive he ran as at first, so Not A Corporate Raider Animal Abusing Religious Fundamentalist Hypocrite was the best reason the Left had to vote for Obama again.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml -2 points 11 months ago

Yes this has big Hillary 2016 vibes.

If Biden is so confident he’s the best suited to beat Trump, why not hold a primary so the voters can back him up? There are some interesting challengers to the left of him with actual populist positions and meaningful intent to follow through on them.

The truth these geriatrics don’t want to hear is that Biden is one of the few Dem candidates who can LOSE to Trump. And he’s dead set on doing so.

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