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[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 115 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (25 children)

I took the liberty of reading the article but I'm gonna say the title is quite... tendentious. Makes it sound like it's yet another one of those FUD / nutjob clickbait that have been coming at the privacy community for a few days with sensationalist titles such as "The CIA will stop funding Signal" (never has been) or "FBI wants to sell Wikipedia" (never has been).

What is going on?

EDIT: Cosmic Cleric has provided the definition of "tendentious", which I have linked.

[–] dwokimmortalus@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Much of it has to do with Firefox's decisions in the past 5-7 years that have made it very unfriendly to enterprise environments. The provisioning tools have gotten progressively more hostile to IT departments.

The US government is also finally moving to more modern systems for authentication and Mozilla has incorporated some particularly poor changes to how the stack is handled that are very unfriendly to IT environments that need to manage credentials for multiple authoritative sources. We had to switch to Chrome a couple years ago because our support cases with Mozilla would on many occasions come back with a response of 'we've made our decision and will not be considering changes'.

Unfortunately, as Firefox kicks itself out of the enterprise market; that's going to cascade to the personal market even further as well.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Serious question re the auth part:

Have you tried submitting PRs? Much of the complaints that I see about the development side of Firefox are grounded on the fac that "they won't have this cool thing that Chrome has", ignoring that those things are usually dangerous or are rejected for justified, studied reasons (see: WebUSB). Sounds just about the area where auth would have issues, and it'd be interesting to see what Firefox's actual response was.

Who knows, maybe they're cluing you that you shouldn't depending on Google...

[–] febra@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Well, as much as I like Firefox (and I even donate to the Mozilla foundation), I know for a fact that companies won't pay their programmers money to make PR on Firefox.

[–] aidan@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I did try, unfortunately, in something as big as a browser it's very time consuming to even fix simple bugs without side effects.

[–] veniasilente@lemm.ee 1 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

True. Browsers are so damn complex these days!

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