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[–] steersman2484@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (9 children)

There are no imports, these are type annotations

[–] christophski@feddit.uk -4 points 11 months ago (8 children)

Do I really have to declare that something requires exceptions?

[–] steersman2484@sh.itjust.works 8 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Yes, in functional programming you want to use pure functions. Exceptions are impure, therefore it has to be declared.

Other functional languages don't even have exceptions

[–] robinm@programming.dev 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm surprised about this statement, I would have said that exceptions are the consequence of an impure operation (that may or may not fail differently every time you call it).

[–] steersman2484@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm currently learning functional languages and have only limited knowledge, but from what I've read now you are right. Throwing exceptions is pure, but catching them is impure.

In this case I guess the printLine function can throw an exception therefore the calling function must be declared with Exception?

[–] robinm@programming.dev 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I would even have said that both throwing and catching should be pure, just like returning an error value/handling should be pure, but the reason for the throw/returning error itself is impure. Like if you throw and ioerror it's only after doing the impure io call, and the rest of the error reporting/handling itself can be pure.

[–] steersman2484@sh.itjust.works 1 points 11 months ago

Sounds good,

but would the preferred way be to use a wrapper type, which holds either the data or the error and avoid exceptions completely?

[–] Pipoca@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Pure functions should be referentially transparent; you should be able to replace them with whatever value they evaluate to without changing the semantics of your code.

Throwing is referentially impure: what value do you get from calling x => throw new RuntimeException()?

Instead, functional languages prefer to return a tagged union of the value or the error.

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