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friendly PSA: not all jews are white (lemmy.world)
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[–] balderdash9@lemmy.zip 54 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (61 children)

People think that Jews in Israel are a monolith, but they actually come from different places and so have vastly different points of view.

For example, European Jews tend to favor a two-state solution whereas Arab and Russian Jews tend to disagree.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 42 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (16 children)

And African Jews in Israel are secretly sterilised by the state so that they can’t have children. Leading to a 50% birth rate decline compared to other groups

Reuben spoke to one woman who believed she had been given a flu vaccination and had no idea she had been injected with Depo-Provera.

Another was pregnant with her fifth child when she arrived in the transit camp, where she would live for seven years. The woman in her thirties told Reuben that officials had gathered together all the new mothers in the camp and told them they would be given Depo-Provera as it would be too difficult for them to give birth Israel.

"No, we didn't want to take it, we refused. We said we didn't want it," the unnamed woman recalls in the film. She agreed to the injections only because she was told her immigration to Israel would be blocked and she would receive no further healthcare in the camps if she refused.

"This happened to many, many other women," Reuben said.

Source: Ethiopian women in Israel 'given contraceptive without consent' - Guardian

[–] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Probably should edit your comment from “secretly sterilized” to “allegedly secretly provided contraceptives”.

Being sterilized and being given contraceptives are wildly different things.

[–] Deceptichum@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t want to lie.

Israel can be held accountable for its crimes without white washing them, thanks.

[–] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sorry - does that mean you think contraception and sterilization are the same thing?

[–] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Yeah, I’m confused. Depo-Provera is a contraceptive that needs to be administered every 3 months to prevent pregnancy. And it doesn’t end a pregnancy, it’s been deemed safe for pregnant women and women who (unlikely but possibly) become pregnant after an injection.

It also may help prevent some cancers of the reproductive tract.

Skeptical of the guardians article or the message that people are taking from it.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't. They've thanked you for calling them out on accuracy.

[–] stevehobbes@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Is that in a different post or comment I can’t see? Their original still refers to sterilization.

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