News
Welcome to the News community!
Rules:
1. Be civil
Attack the argument, not the person. No racism/sexism/bigotry. Good faith argumentation only. This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban. Do not respond to rule-breaking content; report it and move on.
2. All posts should contain a source (url) that is as reliable and unbiased as possible and must only contain one link.
Obvious right or left wing sources will be removed at the mods discretion. We have an actively updated blocklist, which you can see here: https://lemmy.world/post/2246130 if you feel like any website is missing, contact the mods. Supporting links can be added in comments or posted seperately but not to the post body.
3. No bots, spam or self-promotion.
Only approved bots, which follow the guidelines for bots set by the instance, are allowed.
4. Post titles should be the same as the article used as source.
Posts which titles don’t match the source won’t be removed, but the autoMod will notify you, and if your title misrepresents the original article, the post will be deleted. If the site changed their headline, the bot might still contact you, just ignore it, we won’t delete your post.
5. Only recent news is allowed.
Posts must be news from the most recent 30 days.
6. All posts must be news articles.
No opinion pieces, Listicles, editorials or celebrity gossip is allowed. All posts will be judged on a case-by-case basis.
7. No duplicate posts.
If a source you used was already posted by someone else, the autoMod will leave a message. Please remove your post if the autoMod is correct. If the post that matches your post is very old, we refer you to rule 5.
8. Misinformation is prohibited.
Misinformation / propaganda is strictly prohibited. Any comment or post containing or linking to misinformation will be removed. If you feel that your post has been removed in error, credible sources must be provided.
9. No link shorteners.
The auto mod will contact you if a link shortener is detected, please delete your post if they are right.
10. Don't copy entire article in your post body
For copyright reasons, you are not allowed to copy an entire article into your post body. This is an instance wide rule, that is strictly enforced in this community.
view the rest of the comments
Everything about this is insane and exactly what sensible people thought would happen.
That's what it took to get to the fetus and remove it. And they're blaming her for not doing it. There she was with a partially retained placenta, in danger of bleeding out, and she had the nerve to leave her toilet intact in order to obtain timely life saving health care.
And don't forget, she'd been to the hospital multiple times and left because she wasn't receiving care...all hospital caregivers and 'legal teams' were too busy trying to figure out if they could legally remove a dead fetus; they wouldn't do what needed to be done. Just left her sitting there while they argued intent of the law versus letter of the law.
"She put the fetus into the toilet." No, she didn't. The fetus was expelled into the toilet, along with bodily waste. She tried to get everything out, but she couldn't.
"She then went about her day." No, she didn't. She went to the hospital. She was bleeding (probably heavily) due to part of the placenta being left attached.
That's just two of the twisted statements the prosecutor has made in order to make this woman look like a heartless SOB.
It's gone too far, and short of removing Republicans from office and justices from the court, I don't know what we can do. They are prosecuting this woman to punish her for miscarrying in an inconvenient place.
It's worth mentioning that just 11 days earlier, had her miscarriage happened at the hospital, it would have been disposed of as medical waste...incinerated. 11 freaking days, and the state is criminalizing her.
Source on that? Last I read, and funny how all the articles are regurgitating the same exact text a few days later, she checked herself out against medical advice. Twice.
Even the articles we can easily see today repeat that she was offered induced labor and follow up care, an abortion, and she walked away. Twice.
This isn't a case of abortion law gone mad. It's a case of a woman suffering hell and making poor choices.
tl;dr: The Texas case we've all heard about is madness. This one is too, but not over abortion laws. This one is prosecutorial overreach.
Her lawyer, Traci Timko, said Watts sat for eight hours at Mercy Health-St. Joseph's awaiting care on the eve of her pregnancy reaching 22 weeks, before leaving without being treated.
Timko said hospital officials were deliberating over the legalities.
https://magicvalley.com/news/nation-world/ohio-woman-charged-with-crime-after-having-miscarriage/article_a56ffd05-4e0f-5cb1-b945-bc1d06aa536f.html
I've got my grandbabies here so I don't have the time to do a big search, but this article quotes her lawyer's statement that at least one visit in which she left AMA, she waited EIGHT hours for help, which she did not receive. (See first quote) I've read another article which I can try to find after the holidays which explained that in her two visits prior to the miscarriage, she was never admitted. She went to the hospital, explained what was going on, received one examination but was NOT admitted. She left after failing to be admitted, which was considered AMA. I'm sure they'd have liked her to sit there another day or two while they continued to fail to admit her, while deliberating over legalities. (See second sentence in the quote)
deleted by creator
Thank you! Unfortunately the articles I've been reading are all the same two, literally, text and all. Searched again last night.
Why the hell would they take the "abortion law bad" angle and not simply quote what you have?! That makes the issue far clearer.
And no, you don't have to bury me in sources, but thanks for offering more. I get it now, and thanks again.