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[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

Is this view surprising to anyone?

I mean for the last twenty years, every ad on TV is telling everybody you can become a top notch programmer after SIX WEEK camp!

Hell, I fought with an old director in IT healthcare constantly because they thought everyone in the department could pick up SQL and write their own queries in their spare time and we didn't need a dedicated programmer...

[-] hpca01@programming.dev -1 points 8 months ago

SQL isn't hard to learn unless they're asking you guys to do T-SQL and PLSQL.

For simple queries it's pretty easy.

[-] sacredfire@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago

What could possibly go wrong letting non-programmers write raw sql directly to the production db, it's pretty easy right.

[-] hpca01@programming.dev -3 points 8 months ago

Ooof my guy if you got folks running queries on your PROD db you got bigger problems even if they were the best SQL writers in the world.

You can't fuck up step 1 and complain the rest of the steps aren't working. I write and maintain a set of ELT jobs and a bunch of front end dashboards. By default, we never run analytics queries in PROD db. I create views and such for the simple queries to run.

I picked up SQL a few years ago for a school project. It took me a week. The DBA stuff just came by itself as I went along. Query optimizations took a while but you don't need to write every query super optimally. If the DB tables are set up correctly your users will not have to worry about it at all.

My previous comment assumes you guys already have a db set up for analytics where folks can run queries. If you don't then IDK how the director of IT got their job...That's very basic shit.

[-] sacredfire@programming.dev 4 points 8 months ago

Ooof my guy, the comment you originally replied to - to brag about how easy sql is - literally said he had an IT director 20 years ago trying to get everyone in the department to write SQL queries, where did he mention frontend dash boards? How can an IT director be that stupid... what is this thread about and why do you think he shared that anecdote? A thread about idiots asking for stupid shit... I wonder what could possibly be reason, we may never know but I'm sure you'll explain it to us.

[-] hpca01@programming.dev -1 points 8 months ago

Sorry dude...writing simple queries is what I said was easy...and for the record they are. That example is probably not a great example. Simply from my experience, I never started my career in IT, I was in healthcare and far from it all.

Anyway, I've had some idiots approach me about their shitty ideas before too...most notably was one person asking to create an app that "uses AI" to help a person search for the right individual when they send a text message. Couldn't explain how it would know that it found the right person? There was another one that wanted to track the origin of "content" and how it changes over time on social media... again "using AI".

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