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[-] Xenon@lemmy.world 77 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Can someone explain to me why Americans seem so hostile towards Biden over Gaza all of a sudden?

US support for Israel goes back decades. America has been in bed with all sorts of dictators commiting heinous crimes and still is. Not to forget the illegal invasion of Iraq with hundreds of thousands of civilian casualties or the long list of US war crimes revealed by WikiLeaks and largely indiscriminate drone strikes across the globe. Most of these seemed to elicit much harsher condemnation overseas while the US public appeared generally uninterested. So why does this conflict in Palestine in which the US isn't even an active party suddenly evoke such an emotional response?

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago

Part is the fact that the Americans most likely to be upset by the violence in Gaza are the same that are likely to vote for him. And he's being largely unreceptive to their criticism. In any other election, that would mean his base would probably just let his opponent win. There's an obvious problem with that this time.

Basically, Biden is forcing the nation's left wing to pick between showing their disdain for genocide overseas and stopping fascism to at home. It's not a fair choice and people are bitter about it.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml -3 points 6 months ago

It also assumes that you view the democrats as a credible counter to rising fascism... They're currently trying to pass a fascist border bill, and literally using our military to aid in an ongoing genocide.

I don't think there's a choice to be made and I will not be voting for either.

[-] danciestlobster@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If you are set on not voting in the presidential election, I would like to encourage you to still vote (if you didn't already intend to) and just not vote on that question on the ballot, for two reaons:

  1. Local ballot measures and politicians are still quite relevant and your vote is still fairly impactful there relative to the federal election (depending on your state) and

  2. it sends a significantly stronger message to both parties that they are putting forward garbage candidates to vote and just abstain from the one question. Not voting is easy to mislabel as voter suppression by the opposition or any number of other misleading causes when voting, just not for Biden or trump is much more clear what you are mad about.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 months ago

Our local elections only happen on off years to suppress turnout, and it's overwhelmingly dominated by landlords and NIMBYs, trust me I'm involved, but that shit is absolutely calcified.

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