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[–] jfx@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 8 months ago (33 children)

How on earth can people stand using Windows full time? Everything I'm on a Microsoft product I feel claustrophobic!

[–] Grofit@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (8 children)

Stuff just works on windows, I have a proxmox box with some Linux vms to run containers and I've tried several times over the last 20 years to move to Linux on my main pc but there are just too many faffy bits.

I really dislike what windows has become, it's bloat ware that's getting worse and worse, but I begrudgingly use it as I can be productive, the moment I can be as productive in Linux I'm off of windows, but even simple things like drivers are often not as good, lots of commercial software has barebones or no Linux support, there are many different package managers (on one hand great) but some have permission problems due to sandboxing when you need something like your IDE to have access to the dotnet package, also as a developer building apps/libs for Linux is a nightmare.

For example if I make an app for Windows I build a single binary, same for mac os, for Linux it's the Wild west, varying versions of glibc various versions of gtk and that's the simpler stuff.

Anyway I REALLY WANT to like Linux and move away from windows to it, but every time I try its hours/days of hoop jumping before I just end up going back to windows and waiting for windows to annoy me so much I try again.

(just to be clear the annoyances I have with windows are it's constant ad/bloat ware, it's segregation of settings and duplication of things, it constantly updating and forcing you to turn off all their nonsense AGAIN)

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Honestly, you get used to whatever you use and learn to avoid the faffy bits. I was like that with Windows back in the day, I just learned how to deal with it.

Now when I have to use a Windows box, I end up in a rage because of all the stupid shit I just used to avoid or knew how. Most of the useful bits are hidden from that Settings app that seems like it's designed for children.

So really, if you get down to it and pushed your way through the familiarity stage, you'd be fine. If you want something that doesn't give you much visible complexity for configuration, use Gnome, if you like to have every setting at your fingertips, use Plasma.

If you want your applications in a single bundle, use AppImage which is essentially what MacOS does.

And for development, being able to do things like containers/distrobox for your toolchains right on your dev box, without whatever the hell it is that Windows does these days is pretty sweet.

[–] deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I have the same experience as the author you just replied to. While some of what you are saying is true, I have never had everyday issues like these on windows. I switch to Linux once a year to change things up. Mint, arch, Debian... A few major issues I experience

  • login screen just freezes after standby
  • wifi not automatically recognizing what settings e.g. security protocol my work wifi uses
  • external monitors not working
  • updates just breaking my whole OS or not working

These are essentials, not something I can simply learn to live with or fix on the fly.

Would love to switch! I can get through work without proprietary software so that's not the issue.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

Well, that sucks. I've used it for decades now and the last 8 or 10 years seems really low-maintenance.

Maybe try a Fedora spin like Nobara next time you get around to it. It's pretty tuned up and seems stable as hell. And fairly cutting edge.

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