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Russia appears on track to produce nearly three times more artillery munitions than the US and Europe, a key advantage ahead of what is expected to be another Russian offensive in Ukraine later this year.

Russia is producing about 250,000 artillery munitions per month, or about 3 million a year, according to NATO intelligence estimates of Russian defense production shared with CNN, as well as sources familiar with Western efforts to arm Ukraine. Collectively, the US and Europe have the capacity to generate only about 1.2 million munitions annually to send to Kyiv, a senior European intelligence official told CNN.

The US military set a goal to produce 100,000 rounds of artillery a month by the end of 2025 — less than half of the Russian monthly output — and even that number is now out of reach with $60 billion in Ukraine funding stalled in Congress, a senior Army official told reporters last week.

“What we are in now is a production war,” a senior NATO official told CNN. “The outcome in Ukraine depends on how each side is equipped to conduct this war.”

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[–] resetbypeer@lemmy.world 53 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (18 children)

It's also war economy (Russia) vs non-war economy (Europe/US) which is a big difference. Plus even if you would move into a war economy, to ramp up production will cost time.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (17 children)

Can you really say the US doesn't have a war economy though? It's only not been at war for like 6 years of the last 200.

Even the US occupation of Syria, bombing of Yemen, and forces fighting in Niger + Somalia are all a fraction of the US's military production, since it's the biggest arms dealer in the world.

[–] Deceptichum@sh.itjust.works 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

True. Its not a total war economy, but its without a doubt a war economy.

Russia cant keep this up forever as its unsustainable, but the US has no issues maintaining its level. Its a war of attrition at this point.

[–] DoctorSpocktopus@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Russia’s inability to keep up with the economic challenges of the US’ military output is what cause the collapse of the Soviet Union after all.

technically, to be accurate here. The USSRs inability to shift from an industrialized economy into a services economy is what led them to not having money. Then followed by the amusingly high oil prices of the 70s and 80s, which gave them a shit ton of money. So they were able to coast for some time. Also a significant portion of the USSRs economy was directly involved in the military.

Economics are hard man.

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