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On the bunker drill, the former minister said that all secretaries of state - not just defence - have a desk and a bed ready for them in a bunker.

This is not so they are able to survive a nuclear attack "for re-populating our islands after the apocalypse" but "because their departments are as integral to the war effort as the MoD".

Because it's precisely these politicians who should be repopulating after a potential apocalypse /s

Alternate title: "Former military guy can only think about conflict and makes war mongering comments to scare politicians and population"

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[–] neuropean@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (7 children)

Russia is breaking things out of storage for their widespread conscripted force usage. They were getting their ass handed to them with NATOs leftovers, and somehow we’re supposed to believe NATO is in danger? The first gulf war demonstrated how Russian tech stacks up against trillions in military expenditure.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 13 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Europe's military production is severely degraded. Russia looks like a paper tiger now, but they can still pump out ammunition for troops and artillery at a rate Europe can't.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

This exactly, if you believe that the enemy is completely incompetent, you will get stung by that. Look at the reality of war, lack of ammunition means all those high end toys are stuck doing nothing. Look in which direction yhe front is going.

NATO is left buying ammunition from non eu countries for Ukraine when they need it 6 months ago, would that be happening if we had stockpiles of the stuff for ourselves? Just how much is left for NATO to use for self defense?

[–] neuropean@kbin.social 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The high tech toys deployed by NATO don’t rely on conventional artillery nearly to the extent it’s utilized in Ukraine, and it’s farcical to claim as much.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago

So just how much ammunition do we have, keep in mind both Russians and Chinese have militatries well over a million soldiers, thousands of tanks and other ivf. How many anti tank weapons does NATO have left? How many himars missiles? And if we do have this stock, why are we not giving it to Ukraine and repying on purchasing shells half way around the world and even then making promised to pay for it but forking over nothing yet?

They need our help now, not tomorrow. This makes me wonder just how much stock of ammunition do we have for all those high tech toys.

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