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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by MikeyMongol@lemmynsfw.com to c/lemmynsfw@lemmynsfw.com

One of the admins at lemmy.blahaj.zone asked us to purge a community and all of its users because they thought it was full of child sexual abuse material, aka CSAM, fka kiddy porn. We assured them that we had checked this comm thoroughly and we were satisfied that all of the models on it were of age.

The admin then demanded we purge the comm because they mistook it for CSAM, and claimed that the entire point of the community was to make people think it was CSAM. We vehemently disagreed that that was in fact the point of the community, but they decided to defederate from us anyway. That is of course their choice, but we will not purge our communities or users because someone else makes a mistake of fact, and then lays the responsibility for their mistake at our feet.

If someone made a community intended to fool people into thinking it was kiddy porn, that would be a real problem. If someone of age goes online and pretends -- not roleplays, but pretends with intent to deceive -- to be a child and makes porn, that is a real problem. Nobody here is doing that.

One of the reasons we run our instance the way that we do is that we want it to be inclusive. We don't body shame, and we believe that all adults have a right to sexual expression. That means no adult on our instance is too thin, fat, bald, masculine, old, young, cis, gay, etc., to be sexy, and that includes adults that look younger than some people think they should. Everyone has a right to lust and to be lusted after. There's no way to draw a line that says "you can't like adult people that look like X" without crossing a line that we will not cross.

EDIT: OK, closing this post to new comments. Everything that needs saying has been said. Link to my convo with the blahaj admin here.

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[-] Shit@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 year ago

Was it just that one post that caused all this? Honestly I was expecting something way worse not like a single post in a fairly active looking community...

[-] KairuByte@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

They decided that because they mistook it for CSAM it should be taken down, and the entire community with it.

Because they assumed one image was CSAM.

It’s kinda nuts.

[-] GBU_28@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I understand the knee jerk reaction... Doesn't federation mean they are potentially possessing copies of that content, hosting it, by being federated?

[-] assqrw@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 1 year ago

Doesn't federation mean they are potentially possessing copies of that content, hosting it, by being federated?

Media isn't replicated. Lemmy is a link aggregator, posts include links to content and that is what is replicated. The fact that instances let you upload images directly does make that a bit confusing but if you look at a post from one instance on another the posts link is still the image on the original instance and is fetched from there. The only local media from federated instances are the thumbnails that are generated and stored locally. That's still a problem in the instance of some illegal content but less so.

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