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[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 7 points 5 months ago

It's sad, but I realized a few weeks ago that if you map out the direction of Israel, the hard right vision is essentially Iran.

Setting aside the treatment of the Palestinians, Israel was once known for its cosmopolitan night life and high quality universities. Now, its seen a takeover by the militant, backwards, misogynistic theocrats. And as more and more people get angry about losing their rights, the theocrats get more and more heavy-handed in militarizing their society, both inwardly and outwardly. And as the rest of the world becomes more and more disgusted, the country is becoming more and more isolated.

I still believe in a better way: I want to see a one state solution.

People don't say this often but I actually appreciate what there is to like about Israel. There's a lot of cool people and great culture and natural splendor. Same for Palestine too. If we can just apply enough pressure and stop saying "tWo sTaTE soLuTiON! tWO sTAte SoLUtION!!" and just say "Enough. It's time you recognized that it's been one country oppressing half its population this whole time, so stop oppressing people and give everyone the same rights."

I say this because the status quo is already over. I think that it can either become modern South Africa, or Iran. Those are the two most likely paths, and I really want the first one.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

You can admire Israel’s natural beauty (which is just deserts really?) and still support a two state solution though

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 5 months ago

where'd you get that from? another "truthout" article?
only the south of israel is mainly desert.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I mean, I’ve been there. I’m aware of the geography. Not sure what the source has to do with it?

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 months ago

you wrote "You can admire Israel’s natural beauty (which is just deserts really?)".
if you've been there, you're supposed to know that while the south of israel is mostly deserts, you won't find any deserts in the rest of it.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

What is your definition of “most” exactly? Because mine is “more than half,” which literally matches what I said. It’s almost 2/3rds desert.

[-] Billy@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 5 months ago

i wrote most of the south, not most of israel..
and you wrote "just deserts"..
the center and north don't have deserts.
there are meadows and forests. in some places there's snow in the winter.
so again, not "just deserts really". which is what you wrote.

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