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Overall, 39% of U.S. adults say they are "extremely proud" to be American in the most recent poll.

Meanwhile, only 18% of those aged 18-34 said the same, compared to 40% of those aged 35-54 and 50% of those 55 and over.

18% is still too high. As Obama's pastor said, God damn America! Americans have very little to be proud of at this point.

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[–] Pasketti@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (24 children)

What is there to be proud of?

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago (23 children)

Abolishing slavery, ending Jim Crow, giving women the vote, becoming one of the first dozen countries on the planet to legalize gay marriage, helping win WW2, helping support Ukraine, donating more to foreign aid than any other country on the planet, the Marshall Plan, everything about NASA, best national parks on the planet, entertainment capital of the world, first country to land a man on the moon, the whole "nation of immigrants" things making us one of the most diverse countries on the planet.

And of course, none of that excuses the dark parts of our history, the slavery, genocide, imperialism in Latin America, among many, many others. But that brings me to the thing I love most about American: with the exception of the loud Republican minority, we're a country that actually reckons with the dark parts of our past and tries to make up for them instead of sweeping them under the rug. And then we get to work fixing them.

We've made so much progress even in my relatively brief lifetime-- in agonizing two-steps-forward, one-step-back fashion, for sure, but that doesn't make it not count. I'm so excited to see where we go in the future.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago (9 children)

A lot of that is just a list of problems America had that were solved by people fighting against the American government lol

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yes, which is the single biggest reason I'm proud to be American: because our people's willingness to stand up for one another and keep fighting for a better tomorrow, even against the most powerful opponents, even at risk to their own lives.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

This strongly implies this is something special about American people that isn't shared by the rest of humanity.

Be proud to be human because our heritage is international. Splitting us up into national identities is ridiculous and only holding us back.

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can be proud to be American and a human at the same time. Saying "I love my family" doesn't mean I don't love other people too, and it doesn't mean I think my family is somehow better than other human beings, it just means I love my family. Same logic applies here.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And what of the many atrocities committed by America?

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And what of the many atrocities committed by humanity?

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can the bourgeoisie really be said to be human? 😊

God damn America. I will never be proud of this evil shithole lol

[–] DreamerOfImprobableDreams@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm truly sorry to hear you're not having a good time here. Good news is, there's a big old world out there, with plenty of countries to explore! I sincerely hope one day you'll be able to find a country where you'll be just as happy as I am in the US. :)

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm in the heart of the empire. I'm right where I need to be.

I know it's confusing because so many of the main characters are humans, but Star Wars actually doesn't take place on Earth-- it's set in a galaxy far, far away. So unfortunately, you're going to have to travel a few hundred million light years to make it to the heart of the Empire. But the good news is Coruscant is an absolutely lovely city, with tons of fun stuff to do!

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