Update: I contacted with current big owners, other older friends and lastly from some friends from here. Mostly all of them living in US so they don’t want/can’t host it. So I’ll keep hosting without being on moderation side. @gavi@lemmynsfw.com will post about details I guess. @gavi@lemmynsfw.com is the new top admin.
As you know, it has been 2 weeks since I opened the instance and it has grown quite a lot. Likewise, the time I have to devote to this work has increased a lot.
I'm dealing with lemmynsfw more than my IRL job right now :D This is bothering me. Also, having an NSFW instance instead of a normal instance makes things much more difficult. If you remember; I had my biggest scale fuck up with the post "we allow loli content" :) This situation wore me out. Also a lot of problems are bothering me, both as a software and as a community.
That's why I'm thinking of transferring the instance and the domain to a person I trust. Who can maintain the deployments and also know this stuff. I will also roll over any donations made, excluding the current month's expenses.
I'm sorry if I've upset anyone. That's all from me.
I would be able to,i would need information on what it is currently hosted on and access info, but i should otherwise be able to transfer it without issue.
Im a software engineer with a very stable job with flexible hours, and ive been looking for a long term project to get into. if it were transferred to me i could ensure a stable long term home for it. Edit:changing to=>for
I do sysadmin and software dev I can help where needed but I cannot provide hosting. Are you sure you’re willing to take on the responsibilities of moderating against illegal content?
I don’t know the tools available through Lemmy but we need strong controls again CP, rape, etc with effective logging and fast response times to takedown requests.
Yes I'm sure and i know that's going to be difficult. Illegal content needs to be prevented on the site. Currently my understandings are that the tools available through Lemmy are slim, and much will start out as a manual process, and pressuring/ ensuring mods are active in patrolling their own communities to the greatest degree possible. However I understand that the buck would stop with me, not with the mods at the end of the day. Shit rolls uphill and if communities are unsafe that would be a failure on whoever hosts this for not providing support to mods, or for allowing unsafe communities to propagate.
I also understand that realistically its going to be a job where you get alot of hate for just about all your decisions :/
This is true, but I assume also that the timing and procedures depend mainly on where the server is hosted. So it is very important to choose a place where the legislation allows some freedom. For example, I am in Italy and, if it is hosted it directly here, the law is not very restrictive regarding what pornographic material can be possessed, obviously although one does not knowingly possess child pornography, which therefore should obviously be eliminated as soon as possible. The gore, on the other hand, cannot be held and it would therefore be necessary to use a host in another country.
I am in canada, which has no laws preventing the hosting of gore content, They do (obviously) require we prevent CP both real and animated.
And what hosting were you thinking about to keep everything up?
It would take me a bit to do more thorough research on what is currently being used, and the issues that people have run into there. But i would be looking at primarily AWS, or Azure. Are you guys self hosting or using a hosting provider already ? Also depending on the current network traffic expectations its possible it could be self hosted (although again this would highly depend on what the current situation is and is very unlikely)
I personally have experience mostly with selfhosting and AWS which is what I would probably use. From what yay currently said the server is now hosted thanks to Hetzner.
honestly i had never looked at Hetzner before, and wow looking through its pricing its quite attractive (expecially in regards to network traffic) theres a very good chance i would stick with hetzner.
On hetzer I have some doubts I was throwing an eye at https://www.hetzner.com/legal/terms-and-conditions and it seems that they do not allow the possession of pornographic material, although it seems that now yay do it without problems I wanted to avoid the risk and I advise you to do the same
Yaeh, we would definitly need to migrate then. just becouse they havnet enforced it yet doesnt mean they wont. We could also look at alibaba cloud, which is what reddit uses currently. although then we would have to deal with that whole mess
I'd never looked at it, but glancing at it, however, it seems that having a reasonable amount of storage (considering the material we would be dealing with, I assume we need a lot ) the cost goes up. At this point perhaps it is better to self-host everything, the only problem would be to be able to have enough bandwidth
if i were to self host it i have access to a 2.5 up and down link, and i already have experience setting up self hosted content This would limit scalability in the future ( although to what degree is questionable)
Yes, actually 2.5 is not much and even if it would be sufficient for the moment, perhaps not anymore in the future. If we go this route there would also be a fairly significant hardware investment to be made.
Given the extend of this project, I think it might worth coordinating together those who are interested right now if possible so we can have more than one person who can tend to the backend and coordinate hosting. Might even be best to have people from different time zones just for increased response time. Just a thought!
Definitely. I think regardless of who the torch passes to, there will be a need to work with others to do this. there arent easy anwsers to many of these questions.
That can be a good idea
I made a matrix group room to try and corral and at least attempt to figure this out together. Check DMs.