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Speaking at a news conference in Doha, Qatar, alongside Qatar’s prime minister and minister of foreign affairs, Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, Mr. Blinken said that “a deal was on the table that was virtually identical” to one that Hamas put forward on May 6.

At some point, he said, “you have to question whether they’re proceeding in good faith or not.”

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (22 children)

What?

I agree with that (except calling this genocide a war).

Israel started it decades ago, and openly keep saying they won't let it end until their genocide is finished.

They don't want it to end yet, because there's still Palestinians alive in Gaza.

[–] BlameThePeacock@lemmy.ca -2 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Israel started it? Who was it that invaded the day after the British protectorate ended? Oh right, not Israel. Instead they got invaded by all of the neighbouring arab countries who didn't like the UN approved borders.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (5 children)

the day after the British protectorate ended?

That's a weird place to start the clock...

Like, you understand that wasn't that long after that land was all Palestine and the people who had lived there for generations had just been forced out with violence?

That's like if you robbed someone but instead of leaving you just stayed in their house and made them live in the backyard for months while threatening them at gunpoint...

Then one day you sold the gun.

Would you be surprised the family took the opportunity to get their house back?

What do you expect that family to do if your brother was the Sheriff and the cops took your side?

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

There hasn't been a sovereign and native state on that land since the Roman conquest of Judea lmfao

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Nope, but there has been a native population, blood thirsty colonizer.

The land wasn't empty. You don't get to pretend it was.

[–] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So your position is that it's more legitimate for someone to live there because their ancestors moved there under the Ottomans rather than people whose ancestors lived there before the Romans and moved back under the British?

I don't give a fuck about any of that. What I care about is that the Jewish militias were happy to accept sharing the land with a Palestinian state, while the Palestinians decided that any possible Israeli state was unacceptable and declared war.

The entire conflict stems from their inability to accept peaceful coexistence.

[–] Count042@lemmy.ml -1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Tell all that to the Irgun: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irgun and Lehi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehi_(militant_group).

Jesus, this is like the output from chatgpt with the input being "How can I communicate that I don't have knowledge about the history of the Levant without saying I know nothing about the history of the region"

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