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[-] nomadjoanne@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

No, it is not. It is brutal in many ways. But that it is not. Neither is socialomswor communism.

Pyramid schemes are zero-sum. I steal and gain, you lose. Capitalism and even communism are not zero-sum games. They are net-positive. They involve people making goods and services for others.

[-] driving_crooner 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think you can say is a pyramid scheme in the way you can't really make money if you aren't making money for someone upper on the ladder, even if are an independent business owner, you still have loans to pay or equipment that is sold by a corporation.

[-] w2qw@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Generally the idea is that both parties need to benefit from any transaction if it is voluntary.

[-] migo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

When you have to eat and the means to feed ourselves is held by few, no transaction is voluntary.

[-] hemko@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago

Of course it's voluntary. You choose what you buy, when you do it, how much and from whom.

If someone held you on gunpoint and told you to buy their product, that would be involuntary.

[-] Ranolden@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You can choose what, when, how much, and from whom, but you are still are still forced to do so. Choosing which person puts me at gunpoint doesn't make it voluntary

[-] hemko@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

You can also feed yourself by growing food or hunting. Neither of those are banned, just more inconvenient and you probably have some other skills to sell and buy food instead

[-] Ranolden@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I can only do so on land that I purchased. Or on someone else's land I purchased the right to do so on

[-] hemko@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Then do that, or choose not to.

[-] Ranolden@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If I choose not to I die. I can buy the food from someone who already has it, I can buy the right to make my own food, or I can choose to starve to death

[-] Godric@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago
[-] Ranolden@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That costs money. I have to buy the right to hunt on public land or I go to prison for poaching

[-] Godric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Can I interest you in CWA (Crackers With Attitude)'s Fuck The DNR?

[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You are forced to buy food, shelter, healthcare, a vehicle (US). You are forced therefore to have a job to pay for these things. Employers know this, and suppress wages with those together, the proverbial gun.

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