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In short, we aren't on track to an apocalyptic extinction, and the new head is concerned that rhetoric that we are is making people apathetic and paralyzes them from making beneficial actions.

He makes it clear too that this doesn't mean things are perfectly fine. The world is becoming and will be more dangerous with respect to climate. We're going to still have serious problems to deal with. The problems just aren't insurmountable and extinction level.

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[–] havokdj@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

aren't on track to an apocalyptic extinction,

things aren't perfectly fine. The world is becoming and will be more dangerous with respect to climate.

Those statements are contradictory.

These fucking jackasses are running our offices and industries. If something isn't done about this then it will kill ALL of us.

It's a 1.5C increase in a very, VERY short period. What happens if we get another 1.5C increase?

And another

And another

And another

You get the point.

Nuclear energy is the key to saving this planet. It would solve any energy problem we would have for hundreds if not thousands of years, and that's just uraniam. Don't even get me started on thorium, we would have energy for longer than we could ever comprehend. All readily available, yet we keep burning up dinosaur shit because "muh coal companiez!".

What happens when we run out of oil? You bastards are going to go out of business anyways, why not just INVEST IN NUCLEAR ENERGY?

[–] IchNichtenLichten@server1.duluth.lol 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nuclear takes too long to build out and costs way more than renewables + storage. Why advocate for wasting money?

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because we waste money already?

We have an oversaturated military budget to obtain oil from third world countries, we could start there?

How about we stop giving debt to China? We owe them $37 trillion already, there isn't even that many USD on the planet lol.

The government doesn't "waste money" because money means nothing to the government, money is a tool used by the government to get the people to do things the government wants. They can and will print money as needed, which doesn't decrease the value of the USD as FIAT's value is determined by a countries power in terms of trade, politics, and military strength.

[–] IchNichtenLichten@server1.duluth.lol -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

All of that whataboutism doesn't stop nuclear from being a ridiculously expensive form of power generation.

[–] havokdj@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Nor does it stop coal from being a ridiculously destructive form of power generation.

I can go tit for tat with this all day. I don't give a shit about money, money means fuck all when we're living in an inhospitable hellhole 50 years from now.

I never said that they'd do it and of course they wouldn't, but that it would be the best for us as a species. Instead we will hold onto our fossil fuels until we either destroy the planet or get so low that we decide to kill each other for it.

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