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▶️ Total olympic medals won in Paris 2024 and Human Development Index 🏅

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➡️ https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/opinion-features/what-olympic-medal-table-really-tells-us

After reading the article we made this #boxplot using #LabPlot, an open source data analysis and visualization software.

The plot doesn't provide answers, it rather invites some thinking.

#Olympics #Olympics2024 #France #China #USA #UnitedStates #UnitedKingdom #UK #Brazil #Australia #Japan #Italy #Canada #Germany #Italy #Netherlands #DataAnalysis #DataScience #OpenSource #FOSS

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[–] waarismijnhoofd@mastodon.nl 4 points 4 months ago (10 children)

@LabPlot @dataisbeautiful
Doesn’t make sense unless you calculate in population size. Best way to do this is to have “# medals per capita ratio” on the vertical axis instead of simply # medals.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (9 children)

This doesn’t make any sense at all, it’s trying to force correlation to be causation as some political agenda that I can’t quite understand.

[–] waarismijnhoofd@mastodon.nl 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

@stupidcasey Ok, let me explain: if you look at the chart it looks like the US is doing much much better than Australia. Twice the # of medals and about same score on human development index. Truth is US has over 12x the population of Australia.
If you adjust per my suggestion you’d see that Australia is doing ~6x better than US instead of US doing ~2x better than Australia as it is in the chart now. Much more realistic, isn’t it?

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

IM hearing a lot of correlation and not A whole lot of causation there, did the US have 12x the people competing in the Olympics?, did Australia pick its people from an even distribution of its populous or maybe just maybe did they Cherry pick from places that are better than the US like Sydney or Melbourne?

[–] waarismijnhoofd@mastodon.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@stupidcasey
if a country has 12x a pool of people to pick their best athletes from, wouldn’t you agree that would hugely increase their winning chances?
If two schools compete in a chess match, 1 school has 100 students, the other 1200 students, and they both send their best chess player, with all other factors being equal, who would you put your money on?

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Nope, I think both countries have more people than it would be possible to evaluate, also that’s population not living standards, also training has more to do with it than the individual initially picked also the amount of money it takes to train an athlete is such a small percentage of either country’s GDP that money just doesn’t matter either,

All that together plus the plethora of other variables makes this correlation not causation.

[–] waarismijnhoofd@mastodon.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@stupidcasey @stupidcasey so you really seriously think based on that above chart that US and then China are the ‘best performing’ countries and the fact that they have a huge population has nothing to do with it????

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

No I don’t, that chart is the human development index. Why would I draw a conclusion about population from a chart about human development index? They have nothing in common.

[–] waarismijnhoofd@mastodon.nl 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

@stupidcasey I like have conversations, but don’t appreciate your tone of voice. That’s why I’ll block you. This is not Twitter.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

M k, by👋👋👋

[–] waarismijnhoofd@mastodon.nl 0 points 4 months ago

@stupidcasey And what all of this has to do with any political agenda; beats me! 🤣🤣🤣

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