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[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 154 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

This is such an insightful way to articulate the issue. The conversation mostly revolves around individuals ("men are bad"). This is one of the few times that men are talked about in a way that acknowledges the system at play, that they are a product of an environment and society that has shaped them a certain way.

I've lost the podcast source that talked about "there is no good way to be a man currently". Even for someone who wants to be a better man, there aren't role models or celebrations of " good manliness". There's no positive road map, only a list of "don'ts" and stereotypes to avoid.

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 weeks ago

At least that means the routes men take will be more unique

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 29 points 2 weeks ago

Or they'll all fall down the Andrew "Sex Trafficker" Tate pipeline instead.

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

He's not special. Run of the mill pimp.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 9 points 2 weeks ago

I didn't say he was special, just that his type has an outsized influence on young men.

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

That's correct. Please accept my apology if it seemed I was suggesting otherwise.

[-] CameronDev@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago

All good, I did misinterprete what you were trying to add :)

im sorry sex trafficking isn't special?

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Ugh, in no way am I trying to suggest this is a good man doing acceptable things. I'm trying to suggest he is a bad man doing exploitive things AND that there are many like him that perhaps are less skillful with social media.

yeah, and i don't think that makes it or him "normal" either. He's an exceptionally terrible human being. That has managed to be the kingpin of an entire attention economy for years now.

In some regards he is special That's why Romania is putting him through the ringer, it's why the extradition might actually happen.

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Ok fine, he's a special pimp.

that's one of the ways of phrasing that statement

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