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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 15 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Price plays a role too, only 17,55 Euros for Squirrel here and Concord 40 Euros, plus 20 for Deluxe.

I was interested into Concord, not gonna lie. But even if I wanted to buy and play the game, accept their terms of usage and create a Sony account, its not playable on Linux. And to be honest, I'm thankful for not being able to waste my money and time.

[–] tarsisurdi 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

That’s what happens when you mix a pile of abusive industry practices with an overall bad and iterative game that doesn’t bring anything new to the genre

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 2 months ago (2 children)

The gameplay doesn't look bad to me, I am interested into it. It has way bigger problems, like the unpopular character styles and looks. But what do you mean by "abusive industry practices"? I like the idea of paying upfront and getting the whole game, way better than a Free to play model to me. But I guess that approach isn't working in today's world.

[–] tarsisurdi 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Paying for it is not the problem at all, in fact it’s preferred over a freemium model.

The practices I mostly refer to are:

  • microtransactions in any context;
  • requiring additional software (PSN overlay) that doesn’t support all platforms;
  • PSN account requirement for a game that’s sold on Steam (have they forgotten about the shitshow that was Helldivers II?).

EDIT: history has also told us that paying upfront for a hero shooter doesn’t work out in the long term if the game wants any shot at being popular, just look at Overwatch’s failure to capitalize on it’s momentum by not becoming free-to-play earlier (and everything else wrong with Blizzard and their management).

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 2 months ago

But those points are not the reason this game flopped. Lot of games have micro transactions and are popular. Other games require additional account (and even launcher in some cases) and are still popular. While these arguments are in fact negative, they are not the reason the game failed. If Sony comes to this conclusion too, then they will not learn anything from it. So I hope they analyze it better.

In example the initial trailer reveal wasn't good. Then the characters and the universe it is in isn't very interesting, huge problem for a hero shooter. Sony completely ignored the critics from beta test phase. The marketing in general was terrible. Game is not playable on Linux either, which would have gave them some marketing push too. And the timing of the launch day was badly chosen too lot of people and news was focusing on Wukong and Deadlock.

There are lot of reasons that are well orchestrated together to fail the game. It's not as simple as the list you gave (in my opinion). Games with worse industry standards get more popular.

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