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[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You know, thinking about it, I doubt this is a coincidence.

The finger-counting is familiar to me as a technique for lucid dreaming. If you look at your hands in a dream, your brain will kinda fuck it up, so if you train yourself to pay attention to that you realize you are dreaming and become lucid.

My guess is that the origin of fae is something like sleep paralysis deamons or hallucinations, and people realized they could detect those from the same flaws of our own imagination.

Now for AI, it isn't really drawing. What we are using in image-AI is still much more like projecting up a mental image, dreaming. We can't get it right all at once either, even our human brain is not good enough at it, it is reasonable image-AI makes the same kind of mistakes.

The next step would logically be to emulate the drawing process. You need to imagine up an image, then observe it at large, check for inconsistencies using reasoning and visual intuition.
Hone in on any problems, stuff that doesn't look right or doesn't make sense. Lines not straight.
Then start reimagining those sections, applying learned techniques and strategies, painter stuff (I am not an artist).
Loosely I imagine the ai operating a digital drawing program with a lot of extra unusual tools like paste imagination or telepathic select, or morph from mind.

The main thing differentiating dreaming from painting is that for painting you can "write stuff down" and don't have to keep it all in your head all the time. This allows you to iterate and focus in without loosing all the detail everywhere else.

[-] bobotron@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago
[-] booty@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

These tricks have never worked for me, I wonder if that has some implication. I can see working clocks in dreams, both the digital and analog kinds. Reflections look normal. Hell, I've looked directly at myself (or a doppelganger?) in dreams before.

[-] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago

Yeah. It is not like you can perfectly recreate them, but as long as you don't see a problem with whatever your brain fabricates it's not gonna do anything.

What I used to do was try to breath through my nose. That is a different mechanism, where probably for safety your body doesn't "disconnect" your breathing. If you hold your nose shut, you will still be able to breathe in a dream.
It is something you can easily make a habit, as just quickly pinching your nose doesn't look weird, and then you will naturally do it in your sleep too and become lucid.

All you really need is a moment of doubt, and if you have experienced a few dreams you will always be able to tell if you are dreaming or awake at a thought, at least in my experience.

I have stopped lucid dreaming a while ago, but I think I am still always aware when I sleep based just off of how I sleep. Ever since then it feels more like I am just going along with my dreams most of the time, and occasionally I just decide a nightmare sucks too bad and change it or wake myself up.

[-] AlolanYoda@mander.xyz 4 points 1 week ago

As an extra advantage to the nose pinching trick, I no longer turn every dream into a nightmare from seeing my distorted figure in the mirror!

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