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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 78 points 1 week ago

Surrealism is always antifascist. Cruelty and absurdity are two sides of the same coin, or perhaps the same side of two coins.

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Surrealism is always antifascist.

I dunno. Doublethink is pretty surreal, but it supports fascism. If you're just talking about art, I think you could make the case that the Italian Futurists were at least Surrealist-adjacent, and some of them supported fascism.

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

I'd argue semantically that surrealism is that which lies under reality whereas Doublethink (and other Orwellian language) lies over reality

[-] Rolando@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

You may be thinking of 'Pataphysics:

the science of that which is superinduced upon metaphysics, whether within or beyond the latter's limitations, extending as far beyond metaphysics as the latter extends beyond physics

[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago

'pataphysics is an extension of metaphysics - both of which extend the concept of "that which is beyond"

although connected - surrealism from the French for "under reality" is more about incongruity with what is real, but meta- and 'pata-physics are looking at what is beyond the physical.

Dream-like things like a star with a face are surreal, something like an actual sentient star would be 'pataphysical