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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 31 points 21 hours ago (20 children)

I just bought this dumb tv. Couldn't be happier.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CJV6722

It's not a good tv, but it's the biggest one I could fit on my desk and it has absolutely no "smart" features.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 45 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

If that's real, then it's full refund or terrorism upon both the vendor and manufacturer.

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[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 19 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Anybody else have a weird level of fixation on the baseball player and the game character being in the same pose? Like, "maybe it's watching" kind of fixation?

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 69 points 1 day ago (2 children)

First rule of smart TVs: if you really have to buy a smart TV, then never connect it to the internet!

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 20 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

I've read at some other post that some smart TVs won't work at all if you don't connect it to the internet.

Read with caution, I haven't verified this.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I've also heard people say that they'll automatically connect to any open wifi networks. People make up a lot of stuff. Just don't tell your display device how to send any 1s or 0s to any server outside your home, and you'll be fine

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago

Indeed, I remember people complaining about Roku for that.

My TLC hasn't done so up until now.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Like those single player games...

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 75 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oops, stepped on another $1200 landmine did you? Should have researched where you put your foot. Everyone knows this neighborhood is littered with landmines. No, there's nothing we can really do about it except hand out these exhaustive charts and navigation tools. Of course they need to constantly get re-updated and are themselves periodically hijacked by the pro-landmine industry to turn into a second-tier grift. But that just means you have to research who you research for your TV research.

Don't worry, you'll get it eventually. God gave us two legs for a reason.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (7 children)

Looked at the CES reveals and aside from some minor improvements, its nothing but overloaded AI crap.

Even on TVs from 10 years ago, the first thing you had to do was turn off the stupid auto frame generation, smoothing, lighting, and other effects so you can actually enjoy your content in original detail and correct FPS.

[–] Cataphract@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 day ago

It took me way too long to figure out what was going on with those settings. One of my relatives tv's was like this back in the day and at first I thought it was just their "HD" setup which made me completely write off getting anything HD because of the fake look like a soap opera. It wasn't till I was gifted a blue-ray player that I realized their tv just had horrible "enchancement" shit.

[–] relic_@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Feel like I'm the only one that likes the soap opera effect to some extent 🙈

[–] Belgdore@lemm.ee 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

It’s fine for tv, but it causes input delay for video games.

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I can’t believe this is real. I’ve just bought a relatively cheap Samsung smart TV and it’s got nothing close to this. I would hardly even say it’s got adverts since it’s mostly just recommendations from my apps in the same way they all do now, I don’t think I’ve actually seen it try to sell me anything or get me to watch something that wasn’t free.

Who the fuck would buy a TV like this? If a company was going to introduce on-screen ads like this they’d start really small.

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[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

I’ve seen LG getting trashed alongside the other offenders in the industry in smart TV discussions. I have an LG CX65 OLED from 2020, and I’ve always seen the onboard WebOS as pretty serviceable. Have they gotten a lot worse in the last few years? And/or does it vary by product price?

There are definitely some advertising options to turn off in the menus, and with all that taken care of the only UI I use is a row of app icons that pops up. No ads anywhere, and I don’t seem to be logged into the TV with any kind of account. (Though typing this reminded me that the cheap LG LCD in my son’s room does want a login in order to update firmware)

Note I said it was serviceable, not great. The UI could be more responsive on better hardware, but it’s also convenient for my family to just be able to use the Wiimote-like motion pointer built into the remote.

[–] quixotic120@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

LG sucks in many ways. I have a cx as well. I rooted it and blocked updates and all lg services, which helps a lot

If you update it though lg automatically and silently opts you in to data sharing without your explicit consent, which is bullshit and disgusting, but you can turn this of by unchecking a box in settings, which is easy enough. Although given how they handled it I don’t necessarily trust them to honor the opt out and thus traffic from the tv has to be to whitelisted servers (I don’t use any webos apps aside from ad free youtube app)

That said imo compared to all the other smart tv options webos is one of the best options. Especially if it’s rooted (though rooting it is becoming much more difficult these days). Then you can install adfree youtube with sponsorblock, permanently block updates, etc.

Android tv is absolute garbage and loaded with more ads than anything. But at least android doesn’t break when you use adblocking; my old Roku tv doesn’t allow you to set custom dns servers and when you set an ad blocking dns server at a router level the TVs apps break. Android still works although googles ad game is so strong that even blocking all their ad networks still allows some ads somehow, even deleting caches. I’m pretty sure android tv just has ads installed in it

Of course the best thing to do is never ever ever connect your smart tv to the internet at all and buy a secondary device to utilize for watching media. I recommend ugoos devices. I use the am6b+ but they have other/newer devices that may fit your use case better. Stripped down android with 0 ads but can still run all streaming apps/dolby vision licensed and you can flash them with Coreelec so they natively boot to kodi

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[–] synapse1278@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (18 children)

My current TV has started to die. It's developing a purple spot that starts to be very distracting. I am not excited about researching a new model that doesn't pull out this kind a shit on me. I don't intend to ever connect it to the Internet. My current TV is nothing more than a big display for my NVIDIA shield TV and the next one will be the same.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Sceptre makes a decent dumb tv.

I have one. I like it. 4k. Good enough for me.

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[–] eluvatar@programming.dev 24 points 1 day ago

This is where I would go to research a new tv https://www.rtings.com/

[–] qx128@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Check out “commercial” TVs. These are TVs for businesses (e.g. displaying a menu at a restaurant). They typically don’t have the “smart” features. You have to look for them specifically.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No, they are NOT tvs! The difference is that the display panels are to slow for fast action scenes or any kind of scene switch, that's why they only show a set of static images on rotation.

[–] 1371113@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago

There are plenty of panels that are 60hz+ with decent g2g in the display panel space. My company sells them sometimes so i just ordered from there for my current tv. 65 inch. LED. 5 year warranty. Just a panel. No smart anything. It’s fine for sports, at least cricket and basketball which is what I watch.

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[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 80 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Instead of buying a TV, look for a digital signage display. It's a TV, but with none of the "smart" crap on it.

Alternatively, just don't hook your device up to the internet.

[–] renzev@lemmy.world 106 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (10 children)

This is good advice, but I really wish we lived in a world where consumers could bond together and get laws passed that make this type of crap illegal so that buying TV's (or any type of appliance for that matter) didn't involve having to do research on weird non-consumer hardware just to have a nice experience.

EDIT: some morons in my replies keep on saying shit about "voting republican" and We Do In OtHeR CoUnTRiEs. I'm not american, I don't live in america, and I cannot remember the last time I set foot in america. Shut the fuck up, nobody asked you.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

In other words, you wish we lived in a democracy instead of a plutocracy. 'Cause that's exactly how it's supposed to work. This thread is squarely about the FTC failing to do its goddamn job, because this should not be legal.

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[–] shasta@lemm.ee 38 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They are also capable of running 24/7 without ever overheating, no matter the location. And have extra software specialized for signage.

It isn't just a marketing gimmick.

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[–] Rubanski@lemm.ee 36 points 1 day ago

Verification can when?

[–] FolknForage@lemm.ee 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Ads and bloat are the main reason I still use my 1080p Bravia from 15 yrs ago, which btw still looks great.

Well, that and that I have better uses for 1k usd

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So smart TVs are now smartass TVs?

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 151 points 1 day ago (22 children)

No way, tell me that isnt real. I remember hearing a patent about being able to deliver ads over hdmi but dont tell me it actually got implemented.

[–] carpelbridgesyndrome@sh.itjust.works 159 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (13 children)

That ad is not over HDMI. Its a smart TV it inserts the ad on its own.

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