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In an unexpected mask off "secure" email and VPN provider Proton took the stance of siding with the fascist MAGA Reps. Proton's services are no option for me and many others any longer. Let's collect and discuss alternatives (E2E encrypted email and VPN) here ๐Ÿ”๐Ÿ‘‡

Always try to provide:

-Server location (jurisdiction)

-Governance

-Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency

-User experience/ease of use (grade 1 to 10, lets take Proton as a benchmark with an 8)

-Pricing and links

If you know alternative setups, feel free to share, too.

#ProtonExodus

Background: https://lemmy.ca/comment/13913116

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[โ€“] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 95 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Phew! For a moment I thought you were talking about the steam compatibility thingy.

[โ€“] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 39 points 23 hours ago

If that proton goes nazi, I am going straight to the farm

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[โ€“] TCB13@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago (11 children)

This is amazing. People were perfectly okay with ignoring all the red flags in Proton and their products and really okay with buying all their bullshit, then a tweet saying Trump comes up and that's it. lol

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[โ€“] tomatol@lemm.ee 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (3 children)

Thanks for this post. Any alternatives for Drive specifically?? Including self-hosted options

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[โ€“] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 29 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Tweet is from early december. Why is it blowing up now?

[โ€“] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 18 hours ago

I guess on the one hand people are anxious about Trumps inaugeration and on the other hand this is a great opportunity for competitors or otherwise opposed people to launch an astroturfing campaign off of it.

When looking at posts titled has gone "full MAGA" for saying they feel Trump is more likely to enact antitrust rules against big tech than Democrats who let them down the past years, is just absurd.

It is the same line of reasoning like claiming the WHO to have been a chinese asset because they supported some of Chinas anti-Covid measures.

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[โ€“] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Mullvad is supposed to be a safe and secure VPN.

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[โ€“] Akasazh@feddit.nl 9 points 18 hours ago

Damn it my two year subscription just got refreshed...

[โ€“] AnAmericanPotato@programming.dev 29 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Tuta.com is similar to Proton Mail + Calendar.

  • Location: Germany

  • Governance: Private GmbH (German corporation, similar to an American LLC)

  • Integrity/trustworthiness/transparency: Better than Proton IMHO. All their apps are open source and available on F-Droid. They encrypt email headers (unlike Proton, who are weaselly about this in their marketing materials).

  • User Experience: Ehhhh...6? I'm not in the best position to compare because I do not have a premium plan, so I am not able to examine features like inbox rules/filters. Much like Proton, it doesn't support full-text email search unless you have it cache your entire mailbox locally (either via the web site or app). They do not support POP or IMAP, but do offer their own desktop and mobile apps.

  • Pricing: โ‚ฌ3/month for 20GB, โ‚ฌ8/month for 500GB. https://tuta.com/pricing

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