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[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 134 points 10 hours ago (31 children)

That's pretty bold for a really fucking useless search engine. The EU could just block it and redirect google.com to a gov run searxng instange and everyone in europe would be better off overniggt

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip -2 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

lemmy.ml with the stupid authoritarian takes again.

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[–] GrumpyDuckling@sh.itjust.works 46 points 10 hours ago

They could even make it look exactly like Google. What's Google going to do about it? Get wrecked is what.

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[–] Foni@lemm.ee 204 points 11 hours ago (9 children)

In other words, a company, acting on behalf of its own shareholders, tells a government, which represents 100% of the citizens in a given territory, to shove its legislation where the sun doesn’t shine. And not only is this not inherently absurd, but it also stands a significant chance of succeeding in getting the government to comply.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 119 points 11 hours ago (2 children)
[–] yggstyle@lemmy.world 35 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

They probably wouldn't have had to if the school system hadn't dropped language arts from most curriculums ages ago. Students now are getting a markedly shitter education and don't even know they're being fucked over.

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[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 9 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Feel like that speech would have meant more when he still had the power to do anything about it. Instead of going to war against this oligarchy he chose to cash his political capital on a rushed pull out of Afghanistan, and to kill a bunch of Palestinians.

[–] Eatspancakes84@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

I chose to see this as a glass half full situation. I hope that in four years we see this speech as a starting point in which the Dems run on a platform of economic populism.

You may call me overly optimistic. However, the reason I am even remotely hopeful is that the very rich (and the media they own) are fully realigning with the GOP. This means Democrats will receive far less large donations in the future, and things will get shaken up, whether leadership likes it or not.

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 23 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (7 children)

Instead of going to war against this oligarchy he chose to cash his political capital on a rushed pull out of Afghanistan

I don't see how this is laid on Biden since Trump agreed to the withdrawal and timeline, and then R relentlessly hammered Biden for not getting on it, then relentlessly hammered him for the problems related to rushing it.

I agree with the rest of your comment.

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[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 47 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

It felt miraculous for me that, for a while, tech companies appeared to comply to regulation (doing the bare minimum, as slowly as possible, but it kinda worked).

My hypothesis is that they now except political support from Trump administration and to pressure the EU?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 8 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

My hypothesis is that they now except political support from Trump administration and to pressure the EU?

Yes. We will now export our fascism, making it essentially just the same imperialism we've been engaged in forever.

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

To be fair, you haven't invented fascism.

Although, in France we have a sort of proverb that says that what happens in the US happens here 10 years later. I hope we will manage to dodge what's coming at us, this time...

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[–] AceSLS@ani.social 125 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

Good, hope they get banned in the EU so people will switch to competitors

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 57 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

I could see the EU backing down a few years ago, but these days they have watered down any actual advantage in search by filling their results with ads and low quality content. Not that I use Reddit any more, but a good Reddit search engine would probably be better for a lot of use cases.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 26 points 10 hours ago

Then you got people like Musk using their websites as foreign influence platforms to restore Nazis into power so I'd imagine there's an appetite for not being so reliant on the increasingly belligerent US media oligarchy, which itself is the victim of Fox News and Murdoch.

Plus everything is already enshittified anyway so easy to create better.

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[–] Aurix@lemmy.world 22 points 10 hours ago

We need fact checkers more than community notes. Because disproving a claim takes a lot of time and skill, and notes will be abused for financial and personal gain in the long run. Perhaps it is also better to use the word content moderator instead of fact checker, as finding the ultimate truth isn't possible, unless you just present a mathematical proof.

[–] schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

If the links in the article are accurate, this doesn't seem to be a "law", but this thing: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/code-practice-disinformation

Anyone know more about it than I could quickly find? Is this in any way legally enforceable?

Obviously, I believe that governments have no legitimate business whatsoever telling us on the Internet what we can talk about, say to each other, etc.; but I would still like to know more about this particular attempt by the EU to do so anyway, so would appreciate more information.

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago

The DSA contains provisions for combatting disinformation and as a very large online platform google is required to implement suitable practices. The DSA is a regulation, that is, immediately applicable law in all of the EU. As is usual for laws it's written pretty generically and abstract, though, so the commission is also publishing more detailed documents that companies can use as check-lists.

In essence, the difference between the tax code and the finance ministry publishing a paper on accounting best practices. You're free to ignore the latter but that will likely make your life harder that in needs to be.

[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 8 points 9 hours ago

It's set to become mandatory, i.e. law. According to the article.

And this isn't a free speech issue. It's about disinformation. Folks can say what they want, but a political ad needs to clearly be a political ad. And disinformation can't be profit motivated.

It's all in the article you just linked. You can say what ever you want, but if it's bullshit, Google will need to flag it or face fines.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago

And not a single bit of this would matter at all if YOU PEOPLE* would just know a damned thing!

*present company excepted, of course.

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