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[–] Chip_Rat@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

Oh... I misread the headline and though it said "explosion of data center." I was like "wow how did they not know a data center exploded that started the fire?? There must be some people working there....

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Wasn't it the combination of a very dry year, lightning, and the Santa Ana winds?

I mean sure, putting out large fires is tricky, but we understand the cause of them pretty well... Fuel + oxygen + heat = fire

That's not a political thing, that's a physics thing. All the dei in the world won't spark a fire, extreme heat will, like a lightning strike (or a teenager with a tent, some wood and no brains).

[–] fubo@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Case in point, Microsoft's water use shot up from 6.4 million cubic meters in 2022 to 7.8 in 2023, in large part due to the "construction of more data centers."

By way of comparison, the California almond industry uses 3.5 billion cubic meters of water per year. Describing datacenters as using "astronomical amounts of water" is a plain and simple lie.

Moreover, datacenters can be cooled with water that's not suitable for most other uses. Google's Finland datacenter is cooled with seawater, for example.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Their refusal to admit the problem will be the doom of us all.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

People say New Orleans flooded because there was a category 5 hurricane.

But the better way to look at it is that New Orleans flooded because the government chose not to maintain the dikes as advised by the Army Corps of Engineers.

[–] shasta@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Or because it's basically a swampland and should be abandoned.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Oh
Forgiving who you are
For what you stand to gain
Just know that if you hide
It doesn't go away

[–] zapzap@lemmings.world 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's so much hand waving and speculation here. For example, the amount of water that Microsoft uses to cool its data centers is a global number right? Not California specific. And for that matter, if those data centers are in the Bay area that's not going to matter for firefighting in Los Angeles, I wouldn't think. AI makes for kind of a convenient scapegoat right now.

Also, I thought we were blaming the fires on climate change and DEI?