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edit: As I'm seeing a lot of worry about the impact this will/could have on the community, please be assured we have the same mod team, and will be holding the community to the same standards. the same things that were always allowed will continue to be allowed and the same things that got things removed before will continue to get things removed before. Lemmy.world admins have agreed to allow us to run our community on our terms.
It is my pleasure to announce that effective immediately, we are transferring our community to Lemmy.world! This has been a few months in the making, so my entire mod team is already on board.
FAQ:
Why?
That's a complicated question with a long answer! The primary difference is moderatorial and ideologial differences between my team and Ada's excellent team of admins. We are on good terms with Ada and her team, and have gotten her consent to do this. In addition to this, we have had ongoing issues with federation and moderation that has caused a subpar experience for many people on other instances.
How does this work?
Currently, as there is not an easy way to transfer an entire community (trust me, we checked), we are locking the community as mod-only, and moving our focus to the 196 on lemmy.world. For you guys, functionally nothing has changed.
What about the posts?
Well, we tried to transfer them, but there was no real way to do so without absolutely destroying lemmy.world's federation. For this reason, we are simply archiving this community as mod-only. Everything is staying up, you just won't be able to post new content. Comments are still enabled, so we will continue to check our modlogs for some time after the transfer has settled.
As for the posts on lemmy.world's 196, we're leaving those up too. From this point onwards, all posts made to that community are beholden to the rules you are all used to, but anything pre-existing is getting grandfathered in.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, PLEASE PUT THEM IN THE COMMENTS OF THIS POST, AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM.
Once again, here's the link to our new apartment of awesome. (universal: !196@lemmy.world)

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[–] Sergio@slrpnk.net 61 points 2 days ago (5 children)

OK, I think I see where you're coming from. But lemmy.world already has several meme, shitpost, and microblog repost communities. Why does lemmy.world need c/196? Up til now the fact that it was on blahaj.zone was what made it stand out.

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Disappointing

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 78 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I agree with most others that this is a huge mistake, if only for moving to .world. Another larger community being on that instance sounds like a bad idea for the lemmy ecosystem, even if you wanted to move from blahaj.zone. I will continue to post and browse on 196, but if I start to feel unwelcome there, I will make it known.

The problem is that you're creating more work for yourself, even if you're as on top of moderation as you were here. If you get the additional reach that you're hoping for, you'll have to work much quicker at removing shit content than you did here. Now that 196 isn't on the openly queer instance, more bigots will feel like they can interact. This could lead to the community becoming less accepting in the long run, as queer people feel less safe and welcomed.

I have thick skin and often run towards conflicts other people won't, but I know that many users here aren't like me. If I start to feel it weighing on me, be confident that things have gone too far for most people on this instance.

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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 46 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Time to make /196part two on Blahaj I guess.

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

or we could get new moderators to ask for control of this comm

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[–] puppycat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 65 points 2 days ago

:(

.world is already way too centralized, and way less friendly. downhill we go I guess.

[–] danakongur@lemmy.spronkus.xyz 27 points 2 days ago

very sad. i can barely use lemmy.world communities as they take weirdly long to federate with my tiny instance. for example, from my instance i can only see the pinned posts on the new 196, and it has been pending subscription since yesterday.

[–] Sas@beehaw.org 42 points 2 days ago

Please leave the community to someone else. We don't federate world and I like this community and so far Ada seems to be a good admin. You can still make 196 on world without destroying this one.

[–] xuxxun@beehaw.org 33 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Sad. Pretty sure beehaw is defederated from world.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago
[–] Sasha@lemmy.blahaj.zone 102 points 2 days ago

For the love of god, leave this community here and just create a new mod team instead. This community being on Blåhaj specifically is a big plus for a lot of us

[–] GroupNebula563@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As someone whose home instance is LW, this is not a good idea. Like, at all. I suggest at least hosting some kind of poll, chances are if people disagree they'll just make a second community on this instance or another one regardless.

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[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 2 days ago

with many communities creating their own 196es.

Wow that's terrible, can anyone link some of those 196's so I can block them?

[–] araneae@beehaw.org 107 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Neutral observation: World's userbase is incompatible with the attitudes and queer acceptance of nearly any community that originates from a place like Blahaj. Your comment sections will go to directly to shit. You will constantly be embattled by .world bigots. Sea-lioning and whataboutism will be common and things you never imagined would be controversial will be. Given the incoming administration I would stick to spaces carved out for the culture you want to see on a "r/196-like" board.

[–] TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone 71 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Yea, the community didnt give consent to be constantly embattled with people from a less queer friendly (let alone queer oriented) instance.

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[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 125 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I'm gonna be honest, my first response to reading this headline & image, as well as the small snippet of the body visible from my app's home page, was "huh, bit early for an April Fool's Day joke". It would have been surprising enough if the move has been anywhere, but LW is the last non-tankie instance I would have expected, given the modding/admin drama they've been through recently.

I'm guessing LW was chosen because there's a pre-existing (if inactive) community there already?

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[–] luciole@beehaw.org 63 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

What rotten news.

If you want to move to some big reddit-like instance, then you move you and let the ones that what to meme in a safe space do it. As you've noticed, communities can't be moved to other instances. I would ask you to kindly take the hint.

imho you should simply start your far reaching 196 elsewhere and leave this one to be modded by someone else. Not everybody is fond of playing in traffic.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 67 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm sorry, but lemmy.world was the worst possible decision for a place to relocate to. I wouldn't follow you there even if I could. If you really have to go with a big, liberal instance that will let you moderate however you want at least you should have gone with lemm.ee. They're not making lemmy monolithic, not as much of a troll magnet, and far more competent at what they do.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 59 points 2 days ago

Would you consider reconsidering?

[–] Toes@ani.social 41 points 2 days ago

Don't do it, seriously I hope you're joking.

[–] electric@lemmy.world 101 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Lame move. The .world instance has been getting worse for a long while. Why not go elsewhere if it's really that important? 196 is one of the most active communities I've seen so the de-federation issue doesn't sound like one.

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[–] tasho@lemmy.blahaj.zone 73 points 2 days ago (11 children)

agh idk dog... the comment sections of lemmy.world are a bit of a cesspool. I'll miss the pro-trans good vibes

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