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Year of the ~~Linux Desktop~~ Fediverse!

Side note, DAE find calling them "normies" kinda icky? It's like straight outta 4chan

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[–] Romkslrqusz@lemm.ee 44 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Unfortunately, Fediverse apps still have a lot of UX issues compared to their mainstream alternatives. Those will need to be smoothed over for mainstream adoption to take root.

They’re attractive to the tech inclined who are comfortable working around what, to them, is minor clunkiness. Mainstream users have shorter attention spans and are more likely to move on when there’s friction.

Far as the meme is concerned, the only Fediverse equivalent is Loops which is still in closed beta.

[–] DakRalter@thelemmy.club 2 points 18 hours ago

I don't know, though. I'm someone who gave up on Linux Mint because I just couldn't get it to work properly. I wouldn't say I'm tech inclined. I used a button phone until 2022. I only got a smartphone because my sim stopped working with my Nokia. The only issue I had with Lemmy was the sign up (it was during the reddit exodus so the sign ups weren't going through, but I'm glad cos I nearly joined ml).

Mastodon was easy as heck to join. I got a friend to sign up, no issues, and he has no idea what the fediverse even is.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

UX issues

Easiest way to sum up Facebook

Not with their onboarding.

(Also, familiarity is a kind of UX lubricant, all on its own)

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Guess they're China's problem now.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 6 points 1 day ago

I assure you, people can be a problem from afar.

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 24 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Best thing that happened recently. Wonderful wonderful chaos, when the best plans of authoritarian politicians go awry. And I mean both Chinese and American politicians.

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[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Is the cute little monster thing eating powdered sugar with his whole face?

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[–] secret300@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I like the fediverse because there's no algorithm feeding me crap.

But from all the memes I've seen about people's "Chinese spy" perfecting their feed. I guess normal people love the algorithm

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

I guess normal people love the algorithm

The TikTok algorithm was/is (guess it’s back up, but not going back after the Trump messaging) really good about picking smaller niche videos. I had never really thought to get into spinning my own wool until I saw people working with dog hair brushes to card. Lots of recycled/punk/broke bitch crafts, which is a good way to glue me to the phone.

I think algorithms can be good, there just isn’t much incentive to make them good. TikTok has really good discovery features, but it also wants to show you Family Guy clips next to video game footage so that you’ll shut your mind off and buy something.

[–] joyhunter@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't think algorithms are inherently bad, honestly I think the lack of an algorithm holds the fediverse back. On lemmy, sorting by popular creates an okish feed, enough to familiarize yourself with different comms, but on mastodon and the like, it can feel empty. While algorithms are associated with corporatism, an opt in adapted to fediverse sensibilities algorithm, could make some fedi apps more accessible.

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[–] arudesalad@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

That is definitely the appeal. My friends who use apps with algorithms like tik tok tell me that is the reason they use the apps. I can't blame them. Those algorithms showed me loads of obscure musical artists that are still my favorite today (and that is a good thing for indies/small businesses who don't have much money for ad spaces). There is a lot of good reasons for algorithms like that, the problem is the data necessary to make them work and what other stuff they do with it.

[–] Xoriff@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Perfect meme to describe what's happening. Yes, fedi has some UX issues and is not very beginner friendly.

But also, people have gotten so used to being spoonfed content from an algorithm that tells them what they want to see that they can't handle the prospect of "build your own algorithm"

Corpo-curated-content is a hard drug and most people don't realize that they have an addiction.

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[–] Creddit@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I recently listened to Paul Frazee talk about Bluesky on the Software Engineering Radio podcast and it struck me that one thing they got right was looking at social media like a search engine looks at the web, instead of like a centralized platform(Facebook) and instead of like a federated network of platforms(fediverse).

If your feed is understood to be just the search results you see, then users can understand that their algorithm is something they need to work on in the same vein that they change their search parameters on Google or Bing or other search engines.

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[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I use "normie" occasionally and it kinda makes me feel like le edgy teen. But the problem is that I'm not sure if there's another word that quite replaces it either. Sometimes it's the only word that works in a particular context.

[–] sunglocto@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Zero22xx@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (9 children)

Doesn't have the same vibes though. To me 'normie' has always been a little bit of an insult on top of just describing the 'average person'. "Average person" is for when you're describing statistics. "Normie" is for when you're describing people that clutch their pearls and their bible when a goth walks past.

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