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[–] demizerone@lemmy.world 6 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

Decentralized is too complicated. Worker owned is a better path forward and is centralized so it's easier to support and be understood by its users. Moderators are workers and should have equity.

[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 7 hours ago

Karl Marx 2.0 right there

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I want not just decentralized

but peer to peer

like Briar, but Lemmy-style

[–] Xerxos@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 hours ago

Well it helps, but if you live under an oligarchy they will find ways to stop uncontrolled social media.

You have to address the root of the problem or you will ultimately fail as soon as you get big enough to be a problem.

[–] baatliwala@lemmy.world 0 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

I haven't read the full article due to sign up paywall, but...

First, millions of small business owners and influencers who make a living on TikTok were left to beg their followers in TikTok’s last moments to follow them elsewhere in hopes of being able to continue their businesses on other corporate social media platforms. This had the effect of fracturing and destroying people’s audiences overnight, with one act of government.

How is decentralised social media going to help with this if the entire point of decentralisation is the opposite?

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[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 40 points 14 hours ago (13 children)

Guns are the only alternative to the tech oligarchy.

You think they can't buy, manipulate, or just crush decentralized social media? If anything they can do it easily, divide and conquer. FOSS ain't gonna free you, esp. when the largest contributors to FOSS projects are big corps.

[–] erotador@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

so we just all buy guns and fend for ourselves? we need communities in order to fight fascism, we need to be able to organize and share valuable information with people. is technology the answer to the problem? no its not, but it is part of the answer, and to ignore that is shortsighted.

[–] sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

No, we buy guns AND we organize our coalitions, just like the Black Panthers did.

We can't intellectualize our way out of Proud Boys lynchings anymore, guys.

(Also all the stuff VerticaGG said)

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[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 40 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

That's absurd. Large sharp dropped blades, poison, starvation, spears, looped ropes, fire... There are many alternatives available.

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[–] twinnie@feddit.uk 9 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

How is Lemmy (or whatever) ever gonna scale up to the size of Reddit though? If they can’t deal with trolls and bots and spam then what the hell are we gonna do?

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

What do you do in real life? You tell them to fuck off.

[–] reinar@distress.digital 3 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

on reddit majority of heavy lifting is done by community mods. hosting, however, is a pain, lemmy is centralized as fuck.

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 6 points 10 hours ago (4 children)

Checked the rules and I think this is allowed? But if you've still got reddit and don't mind being a fediverse evangelist please go consider hitting this thread: https://reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1i6rp3o/decentralized_social_media_is_the_only/

[–] cy_narrator@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I would recommend an actual cafe with actual humans in it face to face over this

[–] spaduf@slrpnk.net 1 points 7 hours ago

I agree but let's be honest. That may be how it worked in revolutionary France but that wasn't how it worked in the US in the 20th century. The "3rd Places" that most people were involved in were union halls, civic organizations, and social societies. We've largely forgotten that history, but it's not something we can get back without organizing online first.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 18 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

1000% agree. There is no freedom but the freedom that we build together.

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