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[–] CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social 203 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Since there is insufficient cell differentiation at conception to produce any reproductive cells, does that mean that according to the white house, all people are legally non-binary now?

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Female gametes are expressed first, so we've all been forced to be women

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Are they expressed AT CONCEPTION?

[–] Lennny@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

This is what is expressed during conception.

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who would have thought that Trump would be the first female president of the United States

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Actually, he's the first agender president. Embryos don't produce any gametes at conception. The idea that embryos are all female is a myth spread by people who don't believe in nonbinary sex.

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[–] deus@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago
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[–] elfpie@beehaw.org 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A little more seriously, we in fact start as non-binary instead of as female as it's usually said. How nobody said that before?

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[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 150 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

YOU KNOW WHO I WORRY ABOUT COMING INTO WOMEN'S BATHROOMS, CONSERVATIVES?

CIS MEN.

I HAVE LITERALLY NEVER HAD A TRANS WOMAN MAKE ME FEEL UNSAFE IN THERE. BUT I HAVE HAD CIS MEN FOLLOW ME IN AND ATTEMPT ASSAULT.

MEN DON'T NEED TO GO THROUGH THE CONVOLUTED STEPS OF TRANSITIONING TO GAIN ACCESS TO WOMEN'S BATHROOMS, YOU FUCKING IDIOTS

MAYBE ADDRESS THAT FIRST? NO???

HOLY FUCKING SHIT

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 40 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

They believe that anyone can claim they're a woman now and that's it. And once it's done they can just walk into women's bathrooms. They're just telling on themselves, projecting on trans people. They're just sex obsessed freaks, all of them.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know. I was raised in a fundie church. I did not escape unscathed. They're fucked up perverts.

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[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've said that if I was wealthy, I would force legislation that was trans friendly by (as a cis woman) going into women's bathrooms in Congress, standing on toilets, and staring at women.

Women's bathrooms don't have urinals! There's no reason for anyone to be afraid of anyone seeing anything in there, unless they stand on toilets, and Im fully of the opinion that the gender of the person doing that has nothing to do with how creepy it is!!

Maybe if you're actually worried, all bathrooms should be, I dunno, gender neutral with full doors that close all the way? For maximum safety?

And I believe nothing can get that point across quite like demonstrating that I, as an almost middle aged, fat woman who looks like I could safely run for a Rwpublican seat, standing on toilets and staring at people.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk.

[–] WolfLink@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe if you're actually worried, all bathrooms should be, I dunno, gender neutral with full doors that close all the way? For maximum safety?

They made a bathroom at my university that’s gender neutral with stalls that are fully ceiling to floor with no gaps in the door.

[–] flicker@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago

And this is how it should be everywhere!

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

wait ... so if I just walk through the door I'm suddenly in the women's bathroom? no force field?

[–] GrilledCheese@lemmy.blahaj.zone 99 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So we’re all female. Neat!

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 16 points 1 week ago

I've always wondered what it's like.

Turns out, (according to the US government) I was experiencing it all along.

[–] lena@gregtech.eu 15 points 1 week ago

I wish at least I was female

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[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 50 points 1 week ago (2 children)

What about people who produce neither?

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone 48 points 1 week ago (3 children)

They usually handwave and claim "they don't count" because they can't reproduce, assuming that somehow means they can be ignored.

[–] lime@feddit.nu 19 points 1 week ago

i don't think embryos produce any reproductive cells right away so that handwave would have to cover... everyone

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[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

“You know what we mean!”

So we’re back to gender being a social construct then.

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Embryos can't produce gametes. Everyone is agender now.

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[–] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 45 points 1 week ago

Republicans showing once again their cognitive prowess.

[–] vzq@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

It’s the gamete crowd, but adapted for the crowd that can’t spell “gamete”.

[–] lugal@sopuli.xyz 41 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Maybe I'm a late bloomer but I started producing reproduce cells long after conception

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[–] arisunz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

when the fascists accidentally forcefem all of america:

[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

*neuter

Embryos don't produce gametes of any type.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Alright then, take your pills, Alice.

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[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is... is that the actual wording?

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 44 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Holy shit. Surely those who drafted this realize the importance of wording in legal documents. What an egregious error.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Why would you think that? These lines were written by fascists to appeal to morons. Proper wording only matters for those of us that live in reality.

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[–] QuincyPeck@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

You’re giving them more credit than they’ve shown.

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[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'm no biologist, but I'm pretty sure nobody produces gametes at conception. If you want to be pedantic, oocytes form before birth, but actual sperm and eggs don't show up till puberty (feel free to correct me).

Now, I would LOVE if we don't assign gender till puberty, but I still don't like the method.

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[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 25 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I would think "if you have a Y chromosome, you're male" would be a better definition to fit what they're trying to do

[–] jonsnothere@beehaw.org 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

There's like a not insignificant 1% of people who are intersex where looking at chromosomes can get tricky.

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 15 points 1 week ago

As if the right would care.

[–] AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yea it's not perfect, but it's somewhat functional. Compared to what they decided to go with.

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[–] kipo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Chromosomes are almost never tested at birth, and so 99% of people walking around don’t actually know what chromosomes they have. Enforcing any law based on chromosomes for purposes like this would be nearly impossible.

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[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

For fucks sake.

For fucks sake.

[–] yozul@beehaw.org 18 points 1 week ago

I guess the nicest thing I could say about this is that I'm glad that if they're going to be evil, at least they're bad at it.

[–] jontree255@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This is either AI slop. Ignorant because they think babies are made by god and immediately have genitals. Deliberately as anti science as possible to muddy things further.

Probably all 3.

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[–] DankOfAmerica@reddthat.com 16 points 1 week ago

Why didn't they say egg and sperm lol

"On" means a circuit belonging, at time of observation, to the larger number.

"Off" means a circuit belonging, at time of observations, to the nothing number.

These people are on a hilariously dumb level of evil. They can't be for real with this.

[–] batmaniam@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I recommend everyone visit the DMV as soon as possible to change their license. It's an order from the commander in chief.

Now that I think of it: every DMV should be only be able to issue licenses with a female designation. Facts and law suites don't care about your feelings, snow flakes.

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 week ago (2 children)

But at conception aren’t all fetuses female? Isn’t it a few weeks in or more that some become male? That’s at least partly why females have clitorises and males have nipples…

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fetuses don't exist yet at conception. We're all officially enbies now.

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[–] Ton@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

The culture war is refuelled, so we can be distracted from the grand scale theft by the oligarchs.

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