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It’s been nice to see ordinary Americans open up to life in China but everyone is acting blind to their censorship. Makes me thankful for the fediverse and being able to self host my own instance.

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[–] jimmy90@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (11 children)

the real name of this app in chinese is "Little Red Book"

surprised?

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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

One of the most cringe things I've ever read.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 45 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is it. Self hosting, federation, not for profit is the way. We need an internet that is made by just regular people for no better reason than it's fun. Not just social media either. We need an entire open internet, free and clear of all ulterior motives (or more likely still having bad actors mixed in, but at least they're not pulling any strings at the upper levels).

I don't know how possible that is, but I know we need it.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 10 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fully agree! Thanks for putting my thought into much better words.

The only issue I see now is how to surpass bad mods and admins? The balance between filtering off topic or bad content versus anything goes but then nazis come out seems to be a challenge plus power tripping.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 week ago

That's a never-ending process of everyone voting and discussing where the line is and where it should be.

There is no "final" solution, instead the solution is for people to collectively and continiously keep solving it every day.

[–] Tgo_up@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I just don't understand why it's a problem that the nazis come out. Would we not rather they utter their opinions in the open so they can be refuted? That way people can also just ignore that user if they don't like viewing what he has to say.

It's not like they don't exist just because we ban them here.. They'll go somewhere to discuss where only other people who agree with them is allowed to be.

Unless we're talking direct threats or doxing I'm always an advocate for free speech online.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I used to think this way, but no. Nazis should be shunned and banned and feel unwelcome everywhere. No one should ever think their rhetoric is harmless or ignorable. Those who tolerate Nazis enable them.

And yeah, folks can wring their hands about slippery slopes and where we draw lines, but the beauty of federation is that if someone is too loose or too draconian, we can go somewhere with more agreeable policies. We can decide as a society where the line is drawn, and it'll be fuzzy but as speech gets closer to Naziism, it will be rejected more and more places, as it should be.

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[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 25 points 1 week ago (2 children)

China is pretty sensitive about depictions of Mao, so it doesn't surprise me.

[–] Yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

Ironically enough it's actually super popular in China to "Rent-a-Mao" or Chiang Kai-Shek or whoever else from China's modern history. There are a lot of Mao impersonators, just like we have impersonators of Elvis.

[–] LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Even positive ones? But what's up with that?

[–] tellmeaboutit@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 6 days ago

It’s largely cultural. China is a place where filial piety is import so anything that can be construed as disrespect for your forbearers is looked down upon.

[–] Natanael@slrpnk.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's like how companies don't like satirical use of their trademarks even if positive. Brand control. Or for China, propaganda control. They don't want you to get comfortable using jokes about it.

[–] ocean@lemmy.selfhostcat.com 2 points 1 week ago

Surprising to me too, it was a positive depiction of Mao.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 points 1 week ago

I'm not really sure, it may be to do with how Jiang Zemin got called toad boy a lot.

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[–] xep@fedia.io 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Posting anything about any Chinese leader is verboten.

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