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[–] Laitinlok@lemmy.laitinlok.com 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It does not make any sense

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[–] Tomma235@lemm.ee 63 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So where is the US going to get its chips from then tax TMSC makes over 90% of chips?

[–] joyjoy@lemm.ee 34 points 2 days ago (24 children)

TSMC was supposed to open a plant in the US, but apparently that takes a bit of time to get running.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I thought the US FAB was also going to be a generation behind?

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[–] 7rokhym@lemmy.ca 83 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Awesome! Send them to Canada, we can build data centres and sell the cloud services back to Americans powered by the electricity that we expect to be tarriffed, and cooled by the water we won't sell.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Or Mexico! We're already on it. Sheinbaum is working to get a chip manufacturing plant up in Guadalajara. Exciting stuff, honestly.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago

Make the chips in Guadalajara, ship them out of Puerto Vallarta to Vancouver to power server farms in Surrey; cut the US out entirely.

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[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 171 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the end, only the customer pays extras.

[–] wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org 91 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Trumpets cannot comprehend this

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[–] thejml@lemm.ee 132 points 3 days ago (5 children)

He emphasized that the proposed tariffs would leave companies with no choice but to invest in domestic production facilities to avoid high taxes.

No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because there’s no way they’re going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No choice except the obvious: Pass the cost of the Tax into the customer because there’s no way they’re going to spend billions to stand up a US fab plant anytime soon.

TSMC is standing up fabs in the US, mostly because we're bribing them to do so.

The problem is that it takes literal years to build high tech manufacturing and isn't something you can yank out of your ass to satisfy some idiot politician.

[–] cyd@lemmy.world 35 points 2 days ago (1 children)

By Taiwanese law, TSMC isn't allowed to move cutting edge processes to its US plant. The overseas operations have to be at least one gen behind.

From a strategic point of view, it makes sense for the Taiwan government to do this. They don't want the US to suck them dry then cut a deal with the mainland.

[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I mean, it's economic blackmail: we won't build the good shit anywhere else, so if you don't protect us, you get nothing.

Effective, but only if you're dealing with someone who is rational, and, well, have you seen the brain-worm oligarchs in charge of the US lately?

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

For Taiwan, it's a matter of survival, plain and simple. They're not going to give up their monopoly because without it they cease to exist. It does not matter how irrational the person they're dealing with is, because for them this is life and death, literally. TSMC is the single biggest national security asset they have.

[–] infinitevalence@discuss.online 40 points 3 days ago

More so when these plants take 10 years to build. They will pass along the cost and just wait him out.

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[–] Siegfried@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Trump is a chinese puppet apparently

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[–] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 75 points 3 days ago (6 children)

Can the fat fuck die from a coronary already?

[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 52 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Look at Henry Kissinger. If left to nature, Trump will live to be 120.

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[–] dukatos@lemm.ee 81 points 3 days ago (2 children)

So, US is finally getting EU hardware prices

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[–] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 85 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Oh man, Trump...I had this thing I wanted to give you...where did I put it...oh yeah...🖕

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[–] JaymesRS@literature.cafe 40 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But I thought the Tim Apple donation to the trump inauguration was supposed to curry enough favor to avoid this.

ThisIsMySurpisedFace.jpg.

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[–] philpo@feddit.org 49 points 3 days ago

And in two weeks there will be a special executive order to free his Tech Bro oligarch buddies from these tarrifs so Meta and Elmo are not forced to pay a dollar extra.

[–] WeebLife@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I've been looking at doing a new pc build but wanted to wait for the new GPUs coming out. Looks like I should just my new build before prices are stupid.

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