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I mean... I kinda get it, but nowadays it's starting to get absurd.

(EDIT: This was supposed to be a "blow air out my nose and get on with my life" meme...)

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 60 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Let's be honest: the only reason for this is the oppressive chinese government, dead stop

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Don't forget things like China blatantly stealing IP fro the west.

And rich Chinese buying up land in western countries.

And rich Chinese students going to universities in the west and then buying/cheating their way through their degree.

And (this might come under your point) destroying domestic industries of western countries by flooding the market with cheap inferior products.

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (19 children)

I think part of it is being extra defensive considering our tankie neighbors... I don't have any issues with the people of China, the culture of China, etc, etc.

I've always thought that everyone was on the same page about China's oppressive government, but now it feels like it needs to be said, as there are people actively arguing in its favor.

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[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 1 day ago (3 children)

For me its kinda opposite.

I'm ethnic Chinese and have this bad feeling about Japanese things. Like I do not hate Japanese people, I just have this bad feeling about their culture and society. I feel like they are very conservative. Like people say "Japanese people are so nice", I get Sino-Japanese war flashbacks (well not exactly "flashbacks", I wasn't alive at that time, but y'all know what I mean), I don't think I'd feel welcome if I ever went to Japan as a tourist, even as a US citizen. Japan always has this weird anti-foreigner sentinment, especially the anti-Chinese sentinment. They (allegedly, according to the news) deny the Nanjing Massacre in schools, erasing it from history books. Some stores (allegedly) have a "No Chinese People or Dogs" sign on their door. Every time people praise Japan like "they are so punctual", I remember the train accidents that same "punctuality" that it caused. And the guilty until proven innocent sentinment that is almost as bad as authoritarian countries (like China).

Although, Anime is kinda cool tho, not a weeb but I watched a few. I just don't like the "fan service" things they put in Anime.

In contrast, while I do get sus of Chinese electronics, that more about CCP and spyware, less about the fact that they are "China". The fact that they are "China" doesn't bother me. And I'd get sus too if a US company got too close to the NSA. But if I get a Chinese phone, I'd have both CCP and NSA spyware, so I rather have less spyware than more.

Also, the US trying to ban DJI (and other Chinese made drones) is such a dumb thing. That is the type of "China Bad" sentinment I just fucking hate, its not even about CCP anymore. Like, I could use drones with a second smartphone that's airgapped and not have any data leaks. Or use a remote with a built in screen. Besides, why does the government care so much, drones aren't allowed into military bases, everywhere else is just public data. Google Maps already hsve the entire US mapped, and even images of entire streets, more detail than any drone can gather. And a CCP spy wouldn't be obeying US laws anyways and even if they ban DJI, spies would just use a DIY drone to get in to military bases. They are essentially trying to legislate away people's hobbies. wtf lol

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 7 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

Recently, the new Indiana Jones game highlighted Japan’s aerial bombardment of Shanghai before WW2. It was a nice reminder to me that Japan is hardly an innocent nation, no matter how much they’re praised for today.

The Yakuza games also have some pretty good focus on how they treat the homeless, including demographics of Chinese and Korean immigrants that get marginalized.

The electronics bit is where I’m concerned, in part because their aggression is not limited to government, but also private citizens. They’ve previously attempted to repatriate immigrants via coercion and forced abductions.

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The racism in Japan isn’t outward, they keep it to themselves. You wouldn’t even notice it if you went there as a tourist, since they stay polite. The “no gaijin allowed” places are rare unless you want to visit a certain type of establishment 😉 Japan has systemic racism against ethnic Chinese citizens, but the average Japanese person isn’t really racist to Chinese people and if they are it’s from ignorance rather than hatred. Japan is one of the top foreign destinations for tourists from China. It wouldn’t be if Chinese people weren’t welcome.

You’d have a tougher time in South Korea. Where they actually say racist shit to your face.

[–] ZeDoTelhado@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is an interesting take. I've been to Japan as a tourist once, and I can tell it was probably one of my best trips I've ever made (the sheer amount of novelty and getting around the people was really cool), and I can attest the people were very nice to me. But I can also tell, if I was part of the work force, the sentiment would be different. I did never see signs against Chinese people anywhere BTW.

As for the "China bad" part. Check how people brigade on shitter to "cancel people out" (very definition of cancel culture) and you quickly see that some people LOVE the mob mentality. This is also what is going on people going after stuff such as dji for no reason (but I will say straight up, I am not sure if I would trust network equipment easily. Same for me actually applies to cisco as well)

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 151 points 1 day ago (78 children)

Inside me are two wolves

One thinks Chinese tech is cool and innovative

The other hates fascist dictatorships

*both of the wolves are gay

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 42 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There really is no justification to simp for any country/government. They are all pretty terrible and genocidal.

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[–] moosetwin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (47 children)

these are the reasons I think this happens:

  • their numerous accusations of spyware
  • their government being fucked up (especially their censorship)
  • being known for making a lot of mass-produced garbage for cheap
  • the working conditions in those factories being horrible
  • regular racism (which may be caused by the above)

edit: reworked comment into bulleted list instead of run-on sentence

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I spend a lot of time here on Lemmy and gaming outside of my job and my sidejob and I haven't personally been exposed to these cases of Sinophobia. I know there are some people in my town that definitely are deeply Sinophobic but that's probably just a regular broad Xenophobia thats always been around. Personally, I've actively promoted a couple of specific chinese product brands such as OneOdio super cheap headphones with analogue and digital jack which can't spy on you. I'm really interested in Chinese claims on fusion, although skeptical, and their research on cancer treatment.

Now, Chinese Government Thing, on the other hand. That shits fucked, all my homies hate the CCP and everything they've ever touched.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sinophobia

I was born in PRC, when I arrived in the US, in school, kids commonly say "Ching Chong" to make fun of me 😕. Not too frequent, but frequent enough that I get annoyed. Chinese-American kids wouldn't even stand up for me against racism. Like even Black Americans stand up for each other. There is just this lack of Asian-American solidarity. And this in blue cities btw. I'm not even sure if people saying "Ni Hao" is a genuine attempt at communicatiom or just mocking, because they say it without the 4 tones of Mandarin, and that sounds like the voice you use to mock people.

Probably less racism than what Black people had to face during Jim Crow, but nevertheless, common enough I don't exacly feel welcome, especially not after "China Virus" remarks by the felon president.

Its also weird. Black kids would side with White kids to bully me, like bruh, did they forget that Black Americans had to face a lot of racism, why are they now turning it around and continuing the racism, why not just stop that. I thought through experience, they would learn to be more open minded.

Also if you go on Reddit, there is a widespread sentinment to call Covid "China Virus" or "Wuhan Virus". Why the fuck. Just use Covid, or SARS-Cov-2.

Anyways, sorry for the rant.

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

There's definitely very low Asian-American solidarity. The worst bullying I experienced was from a group of Korean American kids in middle school. They would say terrible things to me and call me the c***k word. That hurt the most and I can never forget that experience. Once I hit puberty and grew bigger (I'm pretty muscular) no one messed with me anymore.

There were some mean kids of other races, but most people regardless of race (include Asians) are nice. I've been in the US for almost 40 years now and as an adult I've never experienced any direct racism towards me and I live in a red state (but in a big city). There are some people that didn't feel pleasant to be around with, but luckily as an adult I can choose who to be with and who to avoid.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Sinophobia during COVID in the US was really bad

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[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

As we all know, there has never been any chinese app trending in the US. This because people hate the Chinese and everything they touch /s

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