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[–] KoalaUnknown@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

RIP GT-R Type-R

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Honestly thank God.

I was really worried about how this was only going to drag down Honda.

I used to love Nissan. They made several of my dream cars.

Unfortunately it's been quite some time since they made anything very good imo.

Currently have a reputation of meh reliability and meh driving experience.

They don't offer anything to entice someone away from Toyota or Honda.

I hope Nissan can come back but idk how they do that without a serious overhaul of their whole business from the ground up.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Honda needs decent trucks. Nissan can make a decent truck.

Nissan needs decent CVT transmissions. Honda can make decent CVTs.

As an outside observer, I figured just those 2 things would make it worth it.

[–] gearheart@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I can agree with this. Problem is Nissan wanted their CEO.and board members to retain control of the company.

Obviously it would be a bad idea since I'm sure it's best to avoid Nissan to take down Honda with their bad decisions.

Nissan picked their CEO and boardmembers over the entire Japanese and American Nissan workforce.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

Nissan picked their CEO and boardmembers over the entire Japanese and American Nissan workforce.

Disgusting. They can rot on their own.

Never buying nissan.

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

My little brother said the same thing. I think you're both right. Clearly that wasn't enough to push the deal through though.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Look what they did to my Pathfinder!

Fuck Nissan.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

IMO the 1st gens are the only true pathfinder. And it's 2nd gen brother with FAS a not so close second.

I hadn't even paid attention to the abomination it's become in the last few years.

[–] sartalon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I fell in love with the first gens, but by the time I was able to buy one, it was a '96. 4WD and a standard. Terrible gas mileage, but I loved that baby and she always got me where I was going.

But I agree, the first gens were awesome.

[–] seathru@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 22 hours ago

I've still got a 96 4wd 5spd Hardbody for when I need a truck to do truck things. Over 300k miles and still going strong.

Slapping the hardbody badge on a 3rd gen frontier isn't as bad as what they did with the pathfinder, but it's still insulting.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yes but whats the gain to merge the 2 brands just for a modicum improvement?

bring them together when each can contribute something great, not just to limp along together

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Honda could have put honda engines in them and let Nissan just do their own styling.

[–] Snowpix@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Let Nissan do the styling? No, no, no. They already vomited out the Juke and Cube, we don't need more vehicular abominations out there on the roads...

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

The Juke is the perfect amount of hideous that it flips the bit back to being great. Even the Cube is the right kind of quirky.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

What's wrong with the Cube?

[–] Majorllama@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You don't need to merge with Nissan to do that if you're Honda. Just buy out their design team. Much cheaper lol.

Edit: spelling

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I agree, I'm just saying that's what I would have seen them doing. See my other comment that the rumor was Japanese government pressured them into it.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why?

Nissans haven't look good in ~20 years.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If they were pressured into a merger by the Japanese government, what is the path forward? You could a) wind down Nissan or b) solve their major problem by putting Honda engines and transmissions in them. Which also brings their engine r&d cost to 0.

[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank goodness.

Honda might have dropped quality a bit over the last decade, but they're nothing on the dodginess of Nissan.

I simply wouldn't buy a modern Nissan vehicle.

[–] olympus5737@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am out of the loop on this one. I always thought Nissan made solid vehicles. Even newer ones. Has there been some changes?

[–] Kbobabob@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

Their transmissions have been shit for awhile

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It seems like if Honda has any interest left in in Nissan, they'll just buy it out of bankruptcy when that occurs. The only other chance Nissan seems to have is if there is a non-automotive company that wants to become one.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

At the start of this I heard ideas that the Japanese government was pressuring them so that Nissan stock (held by many retirement funds) didn't go to 0.

[–] drop_and_run@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago
[–] DudeImMacGyver@kbin.earth 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thank fuck, Nissan is ass.

Nissans are the American cars of Japan.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Unfortunate. Their EVs are a great value.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Have you owned one?

They are unreliable and even Nissan itself cannot fix them

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They are very popular for carshare companies. I have rented a NV200 from a carshare for picking up a TV before and it was a nice experience and very inexpensive.

[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe in Europe?, the electric version never made it to North America

Only the Leaf made it and they cannot even fix them. My friends are on their third battery pack in 4 years of ownership; last replacement took 8 months

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 1 points 9 hours ago

Yes, in Europe.

[–] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago

There is a reason they are inexpensive. Their batteries are terribly designed with no thermal management.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

My first car was a Nissan. This is depressing.

[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

My first car was a Nissan too. It was an unreliable piece of shit. So based on that palpable experience, I'm glad this merger is off.

[–] commander@lemmings.world 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I looked at getting them, ending up going with Hyundai instead.

Very satisfied with my purchase.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 2 points 23 hours ago

This was a 1993 Altima. I'm sure they are a very different beast now.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How do we pronounce Nissan in mandarin?

[–] shundi82@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

日产 = rì chǎn

(originating from (the land of) the sun)

[–] drop_and_run@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Looks like Tesla's next up to bat. Imagine, the union of the two least reliable car brands! The Japanese government simply will not let Nissan die (or become Chinese).

Financial Times: Japan to court Tesla on Nissan investment in exchange for US factories

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Why they want to sell them to Tesla? Ignoring that Nissan has nothing to offer to them (chademo? LOL), all Elmo is going to do is fire everyone and run the company to the ground. Any toddler can do that.

[–] drop_and_run@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nissan has manufacturing plants in Tennessee and Mississippi that Tesla may want to get ahold of. In exchange Nissan gets enough cash to survive a while longer until they decide how to waste it.

(DAE remember the Leaf? Shit was dope. What the hell happened?)

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Not much point in assembly plants for ICE cars. Why pay for what's essentially a warehouse.