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[SWE] Swedish government wants a back door in Signal (www.svt.se)

submitted 2 days ago by Wolfie@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Swedish government wants a back door in signal for police and 'Säpo' (Swedish federation that checks for spies)

Let's say that this becomes a law and Signal decides to withdraw from Sweden as they clearly state that they won't implement a back door; would a citizen within the country still be able to use and access Signals services? Assuming that google play services probably would remove the Signal app within Sweden (which I also don't use)

I just want the government to go f*ck themselves, y'know?

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[–] 0x0@programming.dev 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why swedes, why?

[–] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 14 points 2 days ago

The current government promised they would be "tough on crime" but have been largely unsuccessful in reducing gang related criminality. Now they are trying to find new tools to get to the leaders of those gangs. Sadly, they don't understand technology.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

Briar has entered the chat

(No central servers and everything goes through Tor, try blocking that!)

[–] terminhell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Then they get it through fdroid?

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

let's say that signal is magically blocked in Sweden, can you still use Molly?

https://droidify.eu.org/app/?id=im.molly.app or https://github.com/mollyim/mollyim-android

[–] jet@hackertalks.com 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No, probably not. They both speak the same protocol and talk to the same servers.

Unless the block was a app store distribution restriction only

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 6 points 2 days ago (5 children)

It probably is/was/will be just the app store.

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[–] Greg@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

Sweden… more like snitchden… amirite?

[–] JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

They will probably just show message to Swedish ip addresses and state that they cannt provide you with the binary as you are using a Swedish ip.

Something very clear to say use a VPN 😉

[–] troed@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is where Signal's biggest problem shows. It's centralized. Matrix is the better choice since it will be up to you if you decide to break the law if it's banned, since there will still be plenty of servers you can reach.

[–] yournamehere@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (8 children)

yes. but transition takes time and my mom just installed signal last year. we will get there for sure.

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[–] doodledup@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Archived link

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