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Canada to cut off electricity to US states: "Need to feel the pain" (www.newsweek.com)

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Ontario Premier Doug Ford warned that Canada could cut electricity exports to the U.S. in retaliation for Donald Trump’s new tariffs on Canadian goods.

The U.S. imposed a 25% tariff on most Canadian imports, citing border security concerns. Ford emphasized that U.S. states like New York and Michigan rely on Canadian energy and should “feel the pain.”

Canadian officials also announced $155 billion in counter-tariffs.

If enacted, energy restrictions would likely raise prices in the U.S., escalating trade tensions between the two countries.

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[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 22 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Let the southern bastards freeze in the dark...not permanently, just a brief period, followed by an export tax. Cut power once in March, then again throughout the NBA playoffs in April.

At this point we should do this whether or not Trump reverses course. Make it clear there is nothing he can do to avoid it.

I'm sick of this market fuckery back and forth. I'm convinced he's trying to depress the Canadian dollar and the value of Canadian companies and industries, so that oligarchs in the US can buy them up. It's a hostile corporate takeover of our country. Fuck him, we need to go hard - permanent tariffs as long as Trump is in office...and we need legislation to ensure 51% Canadian ownership of strategic resources, as well as no American investment right now. If necessary, we need to nationalize strategic resources and industries.

What we don't need is a fucking tax break for the rich. We're on a war footing right now and our leaders need to accept this. The people have largely accepted it.

[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think he actually cares about Canada specifically. The point is to alienate the US from its allies and reduce any kind of powerful diplomatic mediators or military deterrents so Russia and similar traditionally colonial powers can just start seizing whatever territory they want.

[–] RaskolnikovsAxe@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I think there are two things he wants here..and by "things he wants" I mean things that will make him and/or his wealthy oligarch buddies rich and grow their power.

The first and more near-term goal is the upcoming tax cuts for the rich, which will be trillions of dollars. To fund this, he sees at least three vehicles, that he has been pushing despite the failings of all three: (1) savings from DOGE, (2) the new gold visas, and (3) tariff income. All of these ideas are absolutely dogshit for creating income, but he seems to think they will. In his previous time in office, he even tried to use tariffs in this way. He sees tariffs as income and he's made it clear. He knows the tax cuts will be hugely unpopular so he has to build up a story as to how they can be afforded. In the meantime if a bunch of rich short sellers make money off of market manipulation, so much the better.

The second goal, and probably more in line with the objectives of the oligarchy in the US as a whole, is to make Canada even more subservient economically to the US. They want a quiet corporate takeover of Canada. They want to depress the value then but it all up, after which we're even more fucked than we are now. We need to cut this option off and just accept that we need to nationalize these industries, and restrict or even exclude American investment. I think the Canadian government should own at least 51% of key strategic resources, such as telecom, oil, hydro, potash, and media.

In summary, the Americans are now our enemies and should be considered as such. They want to damage our country and assume control of it. They are outright saying this. We need to stop being so fucking naive, and take solid action to prevent it.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 3 hours ago

I'm pretty sure Minnesota imports something like 60% of our energy - i'm at least glad we're past the worst of the winter weather but holy fuck is it going to suck

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 48 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Do it, do it, do it, do it, do it, do it.... America needs to learn, I say this as an American.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Honestly, I don't think there's going back to any level of normal. Maybe by quickly destroying the system, we will be able to quickly rebuild it (after all the destruction to everyone's lives)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Elon and Trump seem to be intentionally destroying the system, or are so profoundly stupid that they've pulled a "We did it Patrick! We saved the city!"

Honestly with those two I can never tell if they're being dumb or malicious.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I can definitely tell that they are always being malicious. Sociopaths like them doesnt do humanitarian acts, it is always exclusively about themselves

[–] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 31 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (5 children)

Whole world needs to put 300 percent tarrifs on the US until they realise they are 5 percent of the world and aren't in a position to bully others.

China's going to eat their lunch if they keep things as they are.

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago

Do it, but sadly it will affect the Blue States.

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 43 points 18 hours ago (17 children)

USian here, don't think twice, fucking do it.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

New York, the blue state? Canada is likely bluffing, as that's a wet dream for Trump.

[–] towelie@lemm.ee 2 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Michigan, a swing state, is in the crosshairs as well. They already have frequent major outages in the Detroit metropolitan. I don't think this will help.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 16 points 11 hours ago

Western NY is super red. Saw loads of Trump flags on lawns in 2022, not even a presidential election year. Very kind and friendly people though.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 86 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

They need to do this and make it absolutely clear that it is 100% Trump's fault. They cannot be allowed to make the claim that canada did it unprovoked or for the lulz.

[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

The people who voted for Trump or stayed home are not going to understand that. They are the snowflakes and so caught up in their feelings that they can't be reasoned with.

Every day there's more "leopards eating faces" stories and in pretty much every single one, the face-eaten dumbarses Don realize that what happened was part of the plan all along.

[–] slumlordthanatos@lemmy.world 34 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Trudeau got in front of the cameras today and spelled this out. Our government chose to take this action, and Canada is having an entirely reasonable response. Once the tarrifs end, we can go back to where we were, but in the meantime, Americans need to learn how much they rely on Canadian trade and need to understand that this is entirely our government's fault.

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[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 13 points 17 hours ago (4 children)

Ford didn't care about Canadians when he did nothing about the housing shortage for the last 4 years, I wonder why he pretends to care now?

[–] TheresNodiee@lemm.ee 1 points 3 hours ago

Whatever the reason is I just hope he doesn't suddenly turn and start supporting MAGA at some point. God knows he's corrupt, the shit he's doing and been trying to do here in Ontario is absolutely awful.

If I have to deal with another 4 years of Ford at least let him keep up the fight against Trump and his administration.

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 10 points 15 hours ago

Ford was literally pro trump and congratulating him when he won, he pivoted almost immediately to gain favour with Canadians and it worked

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 13 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Pretend to care just won him another 4 years as premier so why wouldn't he?

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 9 hours ago

virtue signalling, hes probably doing this for political pts.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 63 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Do it Canada. The dumber half of our country needs to learn the hard way. And, unfortunately, the smarter half has to go along for the ride.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

As an American, fucking do it, and make sure DC and Red states feel the most pain. And don't have some qwar ass back door conversation/deal to end the tariffs. Refuse to end them until he goes on live television and reads the following

"To all my fellow Americans, the best Americans from the best America, in hind sight, as it concerns tariffs with our closest geographical allies, I was wrong. The decision I made was stupid, and it was made by an idiot, me. Unfortunately I don't have the intellectual or business aptitude to actually determine what a good decision would be, as opposed to a bad decision. In fact, I am as stupid as the idiots who voted for me. This was the idea that I thought I would be fantastic and I was completely wrong and it's the only idea I had. I apologize to Canada and Mexico, both their leaders and citizens"

It would crush him to make a sincere public apology and backtrack. And he'll still get lynched before the end of year. Because he fucking deserves it.

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