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Not because DDG got better, but just because google got worse.

google is still better for site-specific searches, and google scholar still has minimal AI slop

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[–] sanderium@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use Startpage and it feels like I always get the results I want even when I don't use perfect prompts. Just recently I got a three month free trial for Kagi and the results were better than google in my opinion, or at least less cluttered with "possibly related things" that are just ads in the end.

[–] franzfurdinand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I switched to exclusively Kagi on my phone and it's been a pretty pleasant experience. Not perfect, but fairly serviceable. You're right, it's way less cluttered. Going back to Google can sometimes be very jarring.

[–] Wrongdoer1@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

I use QWANT but I have the same feeling tbh. Or maybe Google search has been worsening I'm not too sure..

[–] jaxxed@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Google kind of went downhill

Kind of? It went Paul Rudd in Mac and Me.

[–] DioEgizio@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago

yeah honestly I've been using ddg for a very long time and while a few years ago I had to frequently !g because search sucked now google got so enshittified many times ddg feels better

[–] azalty@jlai.lu 4 points 1 month ago

Compared to a few years ago, it’s better. Some websites still aren’t indexed, and even by entering their name exactly, they don’t show. Google doesn’t have this problem.

Brave search is also pretty good

[–] tfm@europe.pub 4 points 1 month ago

I like DDG a lot more, especially because of the bang shortcuts. But I transitioned recently to Qwant. It also has bang shortcuts and is hosted in Europe.

[–] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

It's not as good as google was when I was first allowed to use the internet 15+ years ago, but much better than today's google. Just so much more peace of mind to know that profit isn't what governs my search results.

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[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

I use Yandex for finding pirated or otherwise censored content.

[–] Psythik@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Definitely not; DDG has always been bad. However, as others have pointed out, Google is getting worse and every day. That said, it's still better than DDG, which isn't saying much.

There are no good search engines anymore. I got tired of having to add site:reddit.com to all or my searches to get actual answers, so now I've resorted to using AI and pretending that it isn't just making up half the shit it spews. Perplexity is a half decent replacement for a search engine; it's more accurate than most and it cites its sources:

https://lemmy.world/post/26764870

[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 4 points 1 month ago

Have you tried Kagi? They have their problems, but I think it's better than Google.

[–] ArchRecord@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

I'd say the same. Google dorks work much better than DDG's filters for site-specific stuff, and generally for things like "search term" but for general searches DDG seems pretty similar.

The only things I've also had worse performance from DDG on compared to Google (in very minimal ways) has been:

  • Highly specific searches (e.g. searching for a diagram of the dimensions of common connector types, DDG shows side-by-sides of connectors, Google does that but also with more diagrams that have dimensions in them)
  • Context but not keyword based searches (e.g. "thing that has x y and z characteristics" returns more relevant results in Google than DDG, very marginally)

And of course, there's always the !s bang to run a search through Startpage (which uses Google) if I'm not getting enough detail.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

It has been for several years now. I rarely use Google now, and when I do, I'm using it out of DuckDuckGo (!g)

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

no. i switch to using it as my primary search engine every once in a while, just to see how it's doing. i always run into situations where i can't find the thing im looking for. maybe im just the obscure searches man

[–] dx1@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's my primary but Google unfortunately is often a fallback. And Google is tracking the shit out of us these days. Certain obscure searches don't work well on DDG, sad to say.

[–] padook@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago

I feel like its better than google. I switched to DDG a couple years ago. 6 months ago I did a trial run with a self hosted search that only used google as a back end, the results felt like garbage

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Google just got worse.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

What do people use google scholar for? Use jstor and other specific databases like arxiv

[–] tfm@europe.pub 2 points 1 month ago

For me they are even better than Google. But I use Qwant now.

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