The fucking nerve for Trump to suggest Zelensky is gambling with WWIII. Ukraine is defending its own nation from invasion and the US is breaking every alliance it can find and causing tensions that remind me all too much of the lead up to WWI.
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The incoming prime minister should challenge Trump to a one on one fight for Greenland. If he refuses, all state heads should just make chicken noises every time they meet him.
feels wrong if the americans don't wager something. florida, maybe.
That doesn't sound fair to Greenland if/when Trump loses.
It will look funny on maps when Canada shorts fit better because of that.
Maybe they can just convert it to a cash prize, how much is one Florida worth anyway?
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"If we win, we get your country, if we lose, you get this garbage heap."
I'm sure Florida wouldn't be a garbage heap if it had proper management.
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I love this plan.
Yet again President Camacho would be superior
For what "national security reasons"? I'd like him to elaborate. Is Greenland somehow threatening the US? the only country threatening other countries in the area is the US.
Let me guess, natural resources.
Also strategic control of the melting and ever more passable Arctic, along with Russia. This also partly explains why Trump wants Canada.
A sane president who values geopolitical allies would just work out a deal with the host country to install more military bases in the region of concern, rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
The US already has that agreement!
A sane president who values geopolitical allies would just work out a deal with the host country to install more military bases in the region of concern, rather than burning every partnership we have by being aggressively expansionist.
Dismissing it as insanity undermines the culpability of what Trump is doing.
The point isn't whatever 'national security!' bullshit they're putching it as, the point is to piss of Greenland to the point of severing our relationship with them. Same with the shit he's doing to Canada, Panama, etc.
Trump's goal is to weaken the US, and he's accomplishing that in part by cutting us off from our allies.
But an insane president will bluster about things he doesn't want to actually do (like Canada and Greenland) as a distraction to keep us focused on this nonsense while he raids the government coffers for all the retirement money he can get his grubbly diseased hands on.
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They already have strategic control over Greenland. Denmark would let the USA do almost whatever they want on greenland.
Denmark probably were the USAs biggests bitch in Europe until they started threatening Greenlands sovereignity.
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Yep.
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I imagine it's to put defences in the Arctic....
But if Putin and Russia are fantastic and great people why does America need to guard the Arctic?
For those evil Norwegians, they might try to spread universal Healthcare!
He has americans convinced that they need to annex greenland to protect them from Russia and China. For some reason they think China is closer to greenland than to Hawaii …
But Trump loves Russia, aren't they great? Why would they ever be a threat?
I don't know a single American that believes what you just said. Most of us recognize this as bullshit.
Note: I'm not in a deep red state
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I'd like Trump, Musk and the whole republican party to go fuck themselves. For national security reasons.
It's the same playbook used by Putin with Ukraine
If anything it's cause for national insecurity, given that if they invade, per NATO rules, an attack on one is an attack on all.
But Trump is used to getting what he wants by breaking the rules and facing no consequences, so I guess it'll be a FAFO thing.
I must admit, I do fear that if it comes to that NATO will fight the usual way - strong worded letter. For a buffoon who can't even read and only responds to a fat stick to the face.
This is going to be interesting because Article 5 assumes an attack on a member state by a non-member state.
By attacking Greenland, Trump would violate Articles 1 and 2 (pledging to use peaceful means to settle a dispute and contribute to friendly relations though you could argue he's violating the latter right now).
I think the whole point of this act is to force NATO to kick the US out of NATO, which is exactly what Russia (and by extension Trump) wants.
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Can they kick out the US and just ask the EU to station troops there instead?
With global warming new trade routes are going to open up through the artic. They will be extremely valuable and the countries geographically positioned to compete for them are going to be Russia, China, Canada, and Greenland. This is why America wants Canada and Greenland so bad and will do whatever it takes to get them.
Despite all the Republican denial, someone must believe in climate change. Wonder how the true-believing cult takes this.
Also, with all the tariffs, why do we need trade routes?
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It is such an insult but he is incapable of empathy, not that he'd care if he could
Thanks to Greenland, a voice of sanity, in response to the muttered burblings of a demented turnip. In me you will find yet another US citizen that agrees with you, and respects your soveriegnty. The turnip is using this distraction to rob us blind, I fear.
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So I got curious and decided to pay a visit to my favorite site to see this... Greenland is about the size of the US Midwest. I did not know that until today.
I'm reasonably certain that Trump thinks Greenland is much larger. He is stupid, after all.
It's more about the resource extraction rights.
Ahhhhh. NOW the Canada and Greenland thing makes sense. If Trump took over Canada and Greenland, then Russia gains full control of the artic.
That's an interesting point.
Everything always seems to make a lot more sense when viewed with the "how does this benefit Putin" lens.
Which probably means there's something in Panama too, and I doubt it's a canal.
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Trump also undermined Denmark's claim to Greenland, saying it was "very far away
He is aware USA is even further away?
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I have a hard time believing the public, much less military members, have the stomach to do something like this. There's zero moral standing in it and it seems like all modern overt military actions by the US needed to have something its participants and supporters could hold up to say "I'm doing this to make the world, and my country, a better and safer place," even if that publicized nobility turned out to be a farce coughIraqcough (although I am glad Saddam got to experience what it feels like to die). Unless you're the demigod of a highly programmed autocracy like North Korea, it takes significant buy-in to wage an invasion, war, and occupation. With Greenland being a benign and peace-loving gem of nature, it would absolutely blow my mind if Trump said "CHARGE!" and military members did anything but a limp soulless salute and slow shuffle to mill about stupidly in passive protest.
"Naturally, the common people don't want war. Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. The people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
- Hermann Goering
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If the right-wing media start inventing stories about Greenland, Canada and Panama being threats to the USA, I don't trust the US public to see through them. Many will, of course, but then many saw through the Iraq stuff too, just not enough.
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Foreign leaders need to stop responding as if a serious response will have any effect. They need to throw that shit back in his face. Tell him you'll accept, only if he discards the shithole states. Then list red states. Or tell him if he can find Greenland on the map, you'll consider it. Or direct the message at blue states and welcoming them if they decide to secede.
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Inb4 Trump starts invading because 2-3 MAGA nuts from greenland said they wanted to be part of US, so that's plenty of reason for the whole Greenland to need it as well - "they'll see why it's good for them once they're ours, trust me".
I have had it with these muthafuckin calls for muthafuckin annexation
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