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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
The protests lasted over a month; the massacre ended them in a flood of state-sponsored murder.
I have the suspicion that the CCP is very scared of knowledge of Tiananmen spreading, not because of the amount of victims (fairly low by Chinese standards and for how large the protests were), but rather that they are scared of the knowledge spreading of how much popular support the movement had and of how widespread it was. Most soldiers were also unwilling to attack civilians, so army divisions had to be brought in from far away and the soldiers had to be subjected to misinformation to goad them into attacking civilians.
This wiki article goes over what it took to suppress the protests: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_at_the_1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre
Afterwards the CCP took steps to ensure that next time, the army would be more loyal to the government: officers who had no qualms with attacking civilians were rewarded/promoted, and those who had not executed their orders were purged. Dictators need immoral people to execute their orders.
CCP is brutal against any form of resistance. China is the only developed country with firewall that censors normal every day words.
China is an absolute autocracy and everytime people advocate for it I can't help but cringe. But hey did you see how developed they are - you can even pay with your fingerprint 🙄
The fact that any other pro-democracy protests in China from that point on can be counted on one hand is quite frightening. And no more "student protest" from what I can find...
China, among others, isn't great with letting their population progress away from the current power structure.
They are headed for decline anyhow. The corruption and boondoggles are still happening regardless of their media reporting on it and as a group the party was able to cover it's ass fairly well over the years but now their focus is on protecting one Pooh Bear shaped individual. Divided priorities is leading to some epically bad decisions.
What decline? Chinese are so whipped CCP can do anything they want.
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Does anyone have good book recommendations on China's recent history? I wanna learn about the creation of the PRC, the cultural revolution, the '89 democracy movement. I have started reading the Wikipedia articles but it's just so dense and dry and I'm having trouble following it, I'm having trouble understanding the social state the described events happen in.
Was just wondering if there's good books that explain everything better.
Okay, hold onto your hats:
Fenby’s 'History of Modern China' is epic and magisterial but far too long for this (goes back to the mid-1800s), while McGregor’s 'The Party' is good for post-‘89 but doesn’t really touch the topics you’re interested in.
Richard Kraus' books 'Very Short Introduction' series is apparently excellent.
Two I’ve not read but come recommended:
The Cultural Revolution: A People’s History, 1962–1976 – Frank Dikötter
Tombstone: The Great Chinese Famine, 1958-1962 — Yang Jisheng (not strictly what your internet stranger asked about, but the roots of the Cultural Revolution are surely to be found in Mao’s Great Leap Forward.)
Finally there is also a doco 'China's Cultural Revolution: The Full Story' - on YT/NewPipe etc. - quite good!
I hope you find some answers to your queries!
Please extend my big thanks to your bro :)
Amazing :) thanks so much!
Sit tight; I will ask my bro-in-law. He will, no doubt, have an answer. If not, he'll at least have a reason why it doesn't exist 😆 Recommendation incoming.
Dot to come back and look at recommendations.
Have responded to OP above :)
Not a history book in the traditional sense, but Yu Hua's China in ten words is great.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12884314-china-in-ten-words
Sounds like a great suggestion, thanks!
Dear Tankies, Wumaos, and assorted apologists:
If you want to be banned that badly, you can just ask instead of writing several paragraphs denying easily verified atrocities of historical note.
Funny, just yesterday I had an .ml insisting to me that the protests ended peacefully and that any hint of violence is western propaganda.
Edit: just had another one saying the same crap but the mods nuked it.
There was a reddit post of pictures of the massacre that were very detailed and graphic. Came out a few years ago. These were never before seen pictures that the redditor had kept for years and decided to release them. I wish I had had the for thought to save them cause I can't find that post again at all. Only things there now are the same pics you see everywhere else.
I have to say though, it is amazingly annoying that nearly any search for Tiananmen Square usually just returns the "tank man" pictures, as if that's all there was to it.
It's very likely that I saw a repost, but I also remember that imagery on Reddit too, so you aren't alone (on Lemmy at least) in coming across that post. Wish I had a link or something to help you find it.
I've never really given any credibility to the Tiananmen Square denials but that post cemented any possible doubt I could have had.
I hate putting this tin hat on but I think that reddit admin obliterated it. They went public and deleted a lot of content that would not make certain governments happy.
I’m guessing that person was one of the admins?
In the 90s, I found a second-hand book published in English by the PRC (can't remember which ministry) giving the then-official line: that the brave soldiers of the PLA resolutely faced down the forces of a foolhardy counter-revolution and saved Socialism.
Only later came the complete memory-holing.
These are disproved very fast by the fact that the chinese government doesnt want you to talk about it. Governments dont usually create whole censor campaigns around things that never happened. And before you say us this and us that, the us is also trying to cober things up and we also know a lot of those things because they get leaked. Talking about the us is a classic tankie move because it diverts your attention from the actual thing you were talking about, china. Just move to europe if you can and help in making a place that isnt an absolute shithole because sadly, currently europe is getting really close to that status.
Have always been curious what happened to those two dancing.
Same. Every time I see it, I think about that
What protest? There was no protest. That was clearly a popular demonstration of support for glorious leader. You lose 85,000 social credit!!