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Germany is at a crossroads when it comes to its security policy — one of the deepest upheavals of the post-War era.

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afd still exists so no

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 days ago

Hoffentlich bauen die Schwaben nie eine Atombombe, weil irgendein Minischderpräsident würde sagen "Etz ham mer se bezahlt, etz werf mer se au ab".

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

The war's been over for a while and they seem to have turned into decent people, but if you think it'll help... 🤷‍♂️

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Guys, have a kid, buy a house. Smile on your faces. Everything is going to be good.

You need to feel like you have something for them to be able to rip it away.

[–] Suoko@feddit.it 1 points 6 days ago

Drop it ! Wherever it's dropped is probably fine now

[–] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 123 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

I just want to point out, that we are really talking about building nukes again in 2025.

[–] LordGimp@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

How else are we gonna get that sweet pu238 for our deep space drones?

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 47 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Well, I'm not a big fan of nuclear proliferation but Ukraine gave up theirs and look what happened...
As long as we have imperialistic authoritarian world leaders, we will need ways to keep them at bay, and nuclear deterrence is probably the best one unfortunately...

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 5 days ago

Yep. I'm really hoping we can build on the nuclear arsenals the non-US West has going already, though.

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[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 73 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Yes. The Budapest memo and the US strategic backflip has proved non nuclear powers are deeply at risk.

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[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 38 points 1 week ago (16 children)

Everyone seems so willing to break the Non Proliferation Treaty nowadays, it's scary

[–] remon@ani.social 55 points 1 week ago

Non proliferation was possible because of nuclear security guarantees by the US. Those are now worthless.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 39 points 1 week ago

Pandora's box is open. Thanks Putin. Thanks Trump. EU can't do nothing... We're heading to more war and disorder either way. Not only more new nukes, also higher chances of them being used again which is even more scary.

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[–] PonyOfWar@pawb.social 25 points 1 week ago (4 children)

No. If anything, EU nukes could be something to consider. But I don't see why Germany specifically should have them. That might lead to calls for every other European country to get them too and that could just as easily be a security risk as an advantage, with single countries possibly "going rogue", like Hungary. In the hands of the EU they should be fairly safe.

[–] Hubi@feddit.org 41 points 1 week ago (3 children)

EU nukes? Hungary would veto their use even if Russian missiles were raining down on European cities.

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