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I don't agree with this... I use Govee everything and control it through Google .. I can't imagine forgetting a Google password. I don't care much about privacy on my lighting control. Yes everything is over complicated but pick a brand and a control device and you're fine. Before I consolidated I had 4 different lights and controlling apps and if I messed up a stored password I could easily reset one of them using an email addy ...mostly disposable ones
Yeah I'm never buying those bulbs again. Learned that lesson years ago.
Being able to change colors from your phone is neat but let's face it, you're going to have it on the same setting forever anyway.
Maybe once I start selfhosting I'll fuck with HomeAssistant but till I control what connects to what, how, and why, I'm good.
I like using the smart bulbs as part of my wake up alarm. HomeAssistant starts fading the lights on 10 minutes before my alarm is set to go off.
I bought the bulbs before Hue made accounts mandatory, so I blocked the bridge from all internet access, and it never got the update. If I ever need new/more bulbs, I'll be just buying some generic zigbee bulbs.
If it's just dimming you could go with dumb dimmable bulbs and just make the light switch "smart".
Apparently modern dimmers just PWM the power so it wouldn't take much to make something that does that. I assume LED bulbs work nicely with dimmers by now.
The smart light switch has exactly the same problems as the smart bulb, and it's much harder to replace.
But the benefit of a smart switch is that it remains "always on" for remote control, and physical actions on the switch also reflects on its state at the software level.
That said, I'd go with stuff that don't need online connectivity.
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I have one WiFi bulb in my house near the entrance to my office. I turn it red to let my housemates know I have a meeting without leaving my chair.
This is about the only reason I could see for a WiFi light bulb. I could wire something but that’s a lot more work.
It is more work, but imagine how cool you would feel with a big red button on your desk that you hit to turn the light on!
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I haven't reconnected all of my smart-bulbs in over two years because every time the software updates or when I have to change devices I have to reinstall everything all over again and find my account information and reset my password and all that, and it's fucking absurd and I am done with it.
Fuck voice controls, it was fun at first but there are switches on the wall, I will keep using them.
Maybe in a few years some AI program will be released that actually works and can be used to assist with home-control and it will just work autonomously, but I doubt it. These companies have zero intention or motivation to produce things that make our lives better, they go halfway by making something "cool" we want to try, but don't make efforts to make the new, cool things actually work better and more efficiently for users. No need, if they already buy the thing, then line goes up and that's all that matters.
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Matter over Thread is generally what you should look for. Local control is always possible, and it'll work with any major ecosystem.
You do need a "Thread Border Router", which you likely already own. If you're tech inclined, Home Assistant is amazing, though it takes some tinkering.
Echo (4th Gen)
Echo Show 8 (3rd Gen)
Echo Hub
Echo Studio
Echo Studio (2nd Gen)
Echo Plus (2nd Gen)
Echo Show 10 (3rd Gen)
Eero Beacon
Eero Pro
Eero 6
Eero 6+
Eero Pro 6
Eero Pro 6E
Eero PoE 6
Eero PoE Gateway
Eero Max 7
Apple TV 4K (2nd generation)
Apple TV 4K Wi-Fi+Ethernet (3rd generation)
HomePod (2nd generation)
HomePod mini
Nest Hub (2nd generation)
Nest Hub Max
Nest Wifi Pro
Nest Wifi
SmartThings Hub (v3)
SmartThings Station
Aeotec Smart Home Hub
Amazon...google...apple...yeah none of these routers are going in my house.
Sad how far they've fallen. I used to think new tech was cool. Now it's depressing.
My concern is, those are microphones that listen if you criticize Our Great Leader.
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My phone lets me listen to over 10,000 different songs.
How many different songs do you listen to each week?
Oh, I just play my 15 favorites on loop.
I blame Spotify for its crappy algorithm. I have over 2000 songs on my liked list and shuffle gets me the same 30 every day.
If you don't like it, stop using it. There's no one to blame but yourself.
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yeah, same here. i think their algorithm must select the songs that cost them the least amount to play at that time.
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It's not just theirs, I swear every fuckin streaming service has made the most dogshit algorithm of all time. If I have a playlist of 100 songs, and I hit shuffle and repeat, I expect a list to be generated with each song in a random order that will get played through until each song has been played once, and then ideally a new randomized list is generated to listen to the same 100 songs again in a different order.
For every streaming service I have used so far, my experience is that it'll just pick a cluster of maybe 10-15 songs, and cycle through exclusively that until the algorithm either decides you want to listen to something not on your playlist, or the internet connection breaks for a second and the algorithm just gives up completely on randomization.
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I have 800 downloaded songs
When was the last time you listened to No. 658?
Mine play at random. Actual random, not depending -on-corporate-feels-random.
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But can your normal lightbulbs ddos a Minecraft server?
You underestimate the electromagnetic emissions of cheap knock-off led bulbs!
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I refuse to buy appliances that need an internet connection to work.
The pursuit of the almighty dollar has enshittified too many things! Bring back useful, well made things!
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Reminds me of that post
“My room mate asked if I could unplug his book so I can charge my cigarette, the future is stupid”
Are the persons a little mixed up?
The only smartbulb feature I need is dusk-to-dawn for my porch lights, and I found lightbulbs that actually have it builtin.
Good old electronics that don't depend on the cloud.
I did this with a string lights, a smart plug, and a home assistant 'sun' integration
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I'm reminded of GE and their unintentionally hilarious video about how to factory reset their smart light bulb
It won't let me watch unless I sign in and confirm I'm not a bot.
What are you hiding? Just confirm you aren't a robot! Which👏Blocks👏Contain👏Stairs👏!
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This is what the Unabomber was trying to warn us about!
I added my heated socks to Home Assistant so I can have them turn on when getting out of bed because I have a pressure pad under my mattress to track when I get up.
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The post the other day about charging their something with their couch and 10 yr old them...
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I keep telling people to quit buying this shit and stop using corporate social media. But they're scared that lemmy is a virus (shrug) and only trust daddy google and apple
If you ever need a smart bulb stick with one that supports Matter. Matter devices don’t need an internet connection.
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