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This is the place for discussing the potential collapse of modern civilization and the environment.


Collapse, in this context, refers to the significant loss of an established level or complexity towards a much simpler state. It can occur differently within many areas, orderly or chaotically, and be willing or unwilling. It does not necessarily imply human extinction or a singular, global event. Although, the longer the duration, the more it resembles a ‘decline’ instead of collapse.


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Can we hope for new technology to deliver a solution for climate change? " Actually, petroleum increased the demand for whale oil: top-of-the-range lubricants for gearboxes and machine tools used to contain whale oil."

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[–] fake_meows@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

Top comment below the article: " In a further twist to the tale, that Jojoba (and I think, palm oil) that replaced the whale oil turns out to be grown in deforested tropical rainforest. So, in saving the whales we threaten the rainforest. There really is no panacea - if we want lots of stuff the environment pays the cost one way or another. "