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submitted 1 year ago by eddie_of_ny@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I've been using Proton Mail and VPN for a while now, and I'm just wondering how everyone else feels about them. I have this kind of inherent alight distrust of them just because they seem like they offer a lot for free and kind of have a Big Tech vibe about them, but there's nothing for me to really substantiate that distrust with, its mostly just a feeling. That being said, I do use their services as mentioned and they work pretty well, even on the free teir. So aside from that one instance where they gave that guy's info to the feds, is there any reason not to trust them with my data?

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[-] soulfirethewolf@lemdro.id 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah I would trust them. But I don't think I would use them because I just find their mail service to have too much friction in a lack of interoperability with clients unless you not only pay money, but also download a whole extra program just to decrypt your email. It's essentially a walled garden

[-] Father_Redbeard@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

I stopped using them because their Android app is absolute dog shit. But I would trust them more than Google.

[-] Shaul@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

When Proton has a single app available on native F-Droid wirh zero anti-features, not from a different repository,conly then will I use their services. I don't use anything from them now. No Protonmail, no VPN, I don't use them.

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[-] XTL@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

For some use cases, perhaps. I do trust them to keel over as soon as anything looking like an authority sends a request. I don't trust them to be as good as their marketing.

No news about scams or particularly evil policies yet, which is far better than many providers.

[-] mojo@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

No, mainly because they're pumping out too many services. Also free VPNs just sound really sketchy to me.

[-] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Do you trust Proton?

For starters, such a question is coming at it from the wrong perspective. One should have trust in the software -- if such sowtware is, indeed, trustworthy -- and not in the entity that created it. If one seeks privacy, then they should be of the mindset that every entity is malevolent.

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[-] SevereLow@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Actually... this is the only internet privacy company that I trust. I just hope that they start to deliver new products and apps faster... especially on Android, so that we can de-Google our lives as much as possible.

[-] knfrmity@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No. I don't trust the Swiss. They're tied up with US intelligence and they'll do anything for money (that's why they're always neutral). I've gotten shit on here before for saying Protonmail might be a honeypot but I'm sticking by it.

[-] Kalcifer@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Such a point is rather moot -- one should not be using email for any form of secure communications, as it is inherently insecure.

[-] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

I feel the same OP. There's no good reason for it but I just don't trust them. I have no idea why.

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