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[–] takeda@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Russia says talking to both sides

Hamas and Hezbollah?

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's not fair. Russia doesn't back Hamas or Hezbollah. They back Iran and Syria, who back Hamas and Hezbollah.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They literally had Hamas leaders flying to Moscow multiple times last year and this year.

They also had meetings with Hezbollah in the past.

At this point I would be extremely surpassed if they weren't involved in this attack.

[–] Terevos@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[–] cuenca@lemm.ee -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas leaders flying to Moscow

But Hamas leaders first had flown to USA, then to UK and France. Then Hezbollah did the same, in the same order

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So are you saying the organizations that are officially labeled as terrorist organizations were invited to white house? Can you provide source they did that after being designated as such?

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Russia could offer Palestinian refugees safe haven.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

I’m surprised he hasn’t already offered to ship them to the Ukrainian front lines.

[–] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

Russia, the historic safe haven for Muslims.

[–] trailing9@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

They could create an autonomous oblast in the Russian far east for them...

[–] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Putin had them all booked for a Crimean riverboat cruise but they abandoned Sevastopol a week early... no more boats to bring them over

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago

He could start by condemning Hamas, but apparently that's too much to ask. Too weak to get away with annoying Iran, apparently.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 26 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

No one gives a shit what the #fascist war criminal #Putin thinks.

The sooner #Ukraine feeds him into a woodchipper, the better.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I didn't know we could do hashtags. Wow.

[–] cuenca@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You've just proven that you youself very much give a fuck what Putin thinks. Aren't you his promoter?

[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

Just when you though he had already doomed Russia enough. Ok broski. Go ahead. Get entangled in the middle east AGAIN like the foreign imperialist meddler you always have been and still are. Imperialism goes to the middle east to die. It happens at enormous and tragic human cost as indigenous peoples suffer even more for trying to extricate, eliminate, and expel invaders, but far be it from anyone else to intervene because the rest of the world SHOULD have learned its lesson by now - getting involved there is never NOT a massive failure. The smartest thing to do is to stay the fuck out of it and leave the middle east alone. Then again, no one with a shred of competence actually expects Putin to be smart; he pays OTHER people to do that (and then has them defenestrated when he doesn't hear what he wants to). Anyway, you know how it goes: never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake.

[–] filister@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Ignoring the fact that he is not really a role model and a war criminal, he has a right in this particular case.

What we have is a huge problem that no one wants to solve. And bombing the shit out of Palestine would only radicalize its population.

By the end of this conflict the number of civilian casualties would be much bigger and a lot of people on both sides would get pushed more to the right.

I can imagine that hate crimes on racial and religious ground would intensify greatly in the months after, and finding a solution and a path for reconciliation to become even more illusory.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Putin's spokesperson, Dmitry Peskov, said the Kremlin was in touch with both warring sides and would seek to play a role in resolving the conflict, but did not specify how.

Putin took the opportunity, during talks with visiting Iraqi Prime Minister Mohammed Shia Al-Sudani, to blame the sharp escalation on years of U.S. policy in the region.

Putin said Washington had sought to "monopolise" efforts at forging peace, and accused it of failing to seek workable compromises.

A Kremlin statement said Putin and Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan deplored the "catastrophic rise in the deaths among civilians".

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov called for a rapid cease fire in a conversation with his Iranian opposite number, Hossein Amir-Abdollahian.

"But nevertheless we intend to keep making efforts and play our role in terms of providing assistance to seek ways to a settlement," he said.


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