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A chart titled "What Kind of Data Do AI Chatbots Collect?" lists and compares seven AI chatbots—Gemini, Claude, CoPilot, Deepseek, ChatGPT, Perplexity, and Grok—based on the types and number of data points they collect as of February 2025. The categories of data include: Contact Info, Location, Contacts, User Content, History, Identifiers, Diagnostics, Usage Data, Purchases, Other Data.

  • Gemini: Collects all 10 data types; highest total at 22 data points
  • Claude: Collects 7 types; 13 data points
  • CoPilot: Collects 7 types; 12 data points
  • Deepseek: Collects 6 types; 11 data points
  • ChatGPT: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
  • Perplexity: Collects 6 types; 10 data points
  • Grok: Collects 4 types; 7 data points
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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Is there away to fake all the data they try to collect?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Pretty sure this is what they scrape from your device if you install their app. I dont know how else they would get access to contacts and location and stuff. So yeah you can just run it on a virtual android device and feed it garbage data, but i assume the app or their backend will detect that and throw out your data.

How about if I only use the web version?

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Root, install xprivacy (or xprivacylua if your phone isn't 10 years old).

[–] subatomic4771@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

I just came across this article which for people who are into self hosting can take a look and participate. It's basically a tool that generating never ending web pages with non sense that load slow (but not too slow the AI tools move on) to slow down and thus cost them more to scrape the internet if enough people are doing it. You can also hide it in a way that legit user would never see this on your site:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ https://zadzmo.org/code/nepenthes/

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Am I missing something? What do the numbers mean in relation to the type? Sub types?

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

perhaps it's the limit imof each data type?!

gemini harvests only your first four cobtacts, your last two locations, and so on.

how does one defeat that? have fewer than four friends and don't go out!

[–] RandomVideos@programming.dev 1 points 1 week ago

Ask people for their phone number to add to your contacts and give them your phone for a day

[–] caoimhinr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's labeled "Unique data points". See the number 2 - Usage Data for Gemini, there's an arrow with label there.

[–] scintilla@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you I totally missed that.

[–] KingDingbat@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Just clarifying, does this report mean it's collected while a user is using the tools, or data that is generally scraped from the internet?

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

They're talking about what is being recorded while the user is using the tools (your prompts, RAG data, etc.)

[–] quantum_faun@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Does that include generated responses?

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 week ago

Nobody knows! There's no specific disclosure that I'm aware of (in the US at least), and even if there was I wouldn't trust any of these guys to tell the truth about it anyway.

As always, don't do anything on the Internet that you wouldn't want the rest of the world to find out about :)

[–] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Did a personal data export for chatGPT and it included the complete conversation, not just my input.

[–] lib1@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m curious what data t3chat collects. They support all the models and I’m pretty sure they use Sentry and Stripe, but beyond that, who knows?

[–] will_a113@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago

Anthropic and OpenAPI both have options that let you use their API without training the system on your data (not sure if the others do as well), so if t3chat is simply using the API it may be that they themselves are collecting your inputs (or not, you'd have to check the TOS), but maybe their backend model providers are not. Or, who knows, they could all be lying too.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Aren't they supposed to collect data?

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