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[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 268 points 1 week ago (16 children)

From my perspective in Canada, there’s nothing the US can do to unfuck this situation.

Let’s say folks unseated Comrade Spraytan somehow and reversed all of his policies. I would still never trust their country again with economic or security dependence in the way that much of the world has enabled in the status quo.

It was the American voters who selected this foolishness, not once but twice. They and their country will not be trusted for a generation or maybe longer. They threw away a very good thing for them because of abject greed, and now it’s gone forever.

[–] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 95 points 1 week ago (16 children)

And the problem isn’t Trump but rather the 30-40% that voted fir him

[–] Houseman@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Its a global class war the Australian Murdoch family is a huge reason Americans vote they way they do. Also it has bled into Canada. The freedom convoy and people like Lauren Southern are paid shills for foreign billionaires.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And Eastern European oligarchs and Middle Eastern oil tycoons who are bankrolling it. It's not an America thing lol

[–] zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

Not only an American thing. However it definitely is an American thing.

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 13 points 1 week ago (7 children)

The Murdochs all have American citizenship and don’t live in Australia.

Literally only Rupert was born in Australia, all the others are from Britain and the US.

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[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 week ago (7 children)

That 30-ish% (or more) of Americans like and support fascism is a real problem. Its been a real problem for... roughly all of human history that 1/3 of us are selfish monsters that lack empathy.

Trump stole the election. He announced he would, his lackeys did extensive voter suppression work, and then he bragged about doing it afterwards. He didn't win a fair election, and it's disgusting that the narratives have fully blown past that.

The wealthiest people on Earth believe that we're in an "end game" of some sort, and that now is the time to do everything in their considerable power to consolidate rule before the big collapse sets in. This isn't an America problem, it's a World Class War and the USA isnt even the first battlefield, just currently the most visible failure of the lower classes to fight back.

[–] ninthant@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 week ago

I need to hire you to summarize my lengthy pretentious blathering into a nice concise sentence. :)

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[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As an American I know I will never look at America or other people the same way again. The last few months have opened me to ideas I never considered before and have completely changed how I view myself and even the people I used to trust. This is certainly the Gen Y/Z generation-wide trauma event. I'm not sure the AIDS epidemic was even this bad. Government negligence is one thing. This is complete disregard for the law.

[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 1 week ago

I have news for you if you think the aids epidemic was negligent and not intentionally reckless because it was a "homosexual" disease.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah that's how it seems to me too.

November 24 was a turning point, and this path was chosen in a free and fair election.

If Trump died tomorrow he would be replaced by someone just as bad by any meaningful metric.

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You'll never convince me it was a free and fair election. Just the perfectly legal shit that was done out in the open is enough to disqualify it as free and fair.

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[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Driven by racism and hate. Trumpsterfire gave them permission to act like themselves.

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[–] Apple87sagan@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

This is how I see it as well. Its not about manufacturing either, you cant increase manufacturing during a recession when no one can afford anything and no one is willing to work low wages.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 48 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Honestly we’ve been fucked since 2016.

[–] all4theTomatoes@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think many Americans can agree we were fucked ever since Ronald Reagan took office.

[–] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I kept hoping the boomers dying off would change things, but it looks like the new generation is even dumber.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 42 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Martial law in maybe 5 days...

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 27 points 1 week ago (6 children)

why. hes doing everything he could under martial law now without having to declare it.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because April 20th was always the plan...

Likely because it's hitlers b-day.

Have you legitimately not heard that date between project 2025 leaking and now?

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[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We were already completely fucked. We knew this in the 70's and reconfirmed it in 2023. With Trump reinstalled, we're extra super-duper double-stamp no-erasies fucked.

[–] WhatSay@slrpnk.net 18 points 1 week ago

USA is Number 1! ... In denial.

[–] Houseman@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I wish. I wish we admitted the moment we saw the election results. The longer we wait the harder it will be.

At a certain point we will just become russia.

If want to know the truth here it is: There are no good choices left. Sacrifice now, or sacrifice later. The only winners are people who die before they have to pay up.

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