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Hogg, a 25-year-old gun control activist, who was elected the DNC’s vice chair, has sparked an intra-party uproar over his announcement that his political group, Leaders We Deserve, would be spending $20 million to challenge “asleep-at-the-wheel” Democrats in deep-blue districts.

“We, as the DNC, need to be seen as a body that can be trusted, that’s not putting its thumb on the scales,” a DNC member told Politico. “We have to be so strategic and careful with our resources right now. ... So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?”

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[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 96 points 5 days ago (3 children)

Carville go back to bed. You’re old and worthless.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 54 points 5 days ago (2 children)

All of his predictions about Trump have been wrong. All of them.

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 21 points 5 days ago (1 children)

He works for trump. His job is to convince folks everything won’t be that bad.

He’s a quisling

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

No, he’s a Blue Dog Democrat and operative of Clinton.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 11 points 5 days ago

"Reaching across the aisle..."

Fuck that noise.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 5 days ago
[–] kevin____@lemm.ee 14 points 5 days ago

Cajun style!

[–] Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org 14 points 5 days ago

Almost old enough to run for president

[–] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 80 points 5 days ago (1 children)

So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?”

Because most of us aren't here to be Democrats, we're here to make the country a better place and some of the calls are coming from inside the house.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 27 points 5 days ago

Because most of us aren’t here to be Democrats, we’re here to make the country a better place and some of the calls are coming from inside the house.

Alternatively, "because the Democratic leadership has consistently shown its failure to meet the moment and that fresh voices are needed. Furthermore, the leadership is failing to advocate for policies that have widespread support among Americans such as forcing the wealthy to pay what they owe in taxes and healthcare for all regardless of income level. Also y'all just too damn old."

What's wrong with facing a primary challenger? Every politician should have to truly face their base every election. It is the height of entitlement to view primary challenges as something worth bringing a civil suit over.

If Carville thinks the current crop of old guard democratic politicians are doing the right thing, what's to fear from a primary?

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 42 points 5 days ago

Holy crap is that transcript insane. The moment centrists are on the downswing Carville wants to split the vote. Also some nonsense about all employees having "a fiduciary duty to your employer".

And all this with disgraced anchor Chris Cuomo egging him on then at the last moment remembering he was supposed to pretend he was neutral.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 47 points 5 days ago

I mean I already thought Hogg was an incredible person, but now that I know Carville hates him, I like him even more.

[–] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 43 points 5 days ago (1 children)

AGREED! WHY would we want Democratic Infighting when Their Strategy of DO LITERALLY NOTHING has been Working TREMENDOUSLY! Just LOOK at your ~~Stocks!~~ ~~Immigrant Neighbors!~~ ~~LGBT Neighbors!~~ Donations and see that you SHOULD donate to the DNC again!

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Ha just what I was going to say. Carville wants to help create a schism in the Democratic party? Fine, they already can't get much less effective as a group anyway.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

This guy is the face of centrism. centrism has the face it deserves.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 23 points 5 days ago

Yeah something about surviving a school shooting galvanizes people to have strong opinions. Who knew? What’s your moral touchstone, Jimmy? Still looking? We’ll wait…

[–] Delta_V@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

“We, as the DNC, need to be seen as a body that can be trusted, that’s not putting its thumb on the scales,” a DNC member told Politico. “We have to be so strategic and careful with our resources right now. ... So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?”

Which side of the debate is this person trying to support?

If the DNC wants to be seen as trustworthy and not putting its thumb on the scales against its constituents economic interests, then it makes sense to try to repair the broken parts of the party that are largely seen as untrustworthy and favoring the donor class over the people who vote for Democrats.

So why are the corporate Dems shooting their own party in the foot by resisting changes to the failed status-quo?

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago
[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah right, they’ve never “put their thumbs on the scales”, lol. These people are as deluded as the Trump admin if they don’t think we’ve all seen what they’ve been doing. Do they think normal Americans, even Democrats give a shit about the DNC? Or that they have anything but contempt if they are aware of it?

[–] VasovagalSyncope@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Go retire James, nobody cares about you or your dynasty anymore

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?”

That's easy, some Democrats have enabled Trump & his fascists. They need to lose their seats to better Democrats.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

So why are we in this circular firing squad against Democrats?

Because Hogg is right that you're ineffective, lazy, speed bumps to actually making progress and winning elections at every level.

Oh and let's not forget that these fuckers were no where to be heard from when people like Cori Bush and Jamaal Bowman were primaried and heavily funded by Democrat organizations associate with leadership.

[–] ClassStruggle@lemmy.ml 19 points 5 days ago

Carville just needs to fuck off all the way to the grave. He's much of the reason Dems have gone off the rails in their match to the right

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 19 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We need Guillotine Party democrats, not gun controllers. And we definitely don't need fossils.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep, if anything from these past few months have taught left wing types... it's not to throw away the guns

Dems would sweep everything if they dropped the anti-gun rhetoric and focused on shit that would actually help.

[–] CthuluVoIP@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

Been saying this for decades.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How would Carville even have standing to sue?

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 7 points 5 days ago

It's a SLAPP suit. It might be thrown out for lack of standing, but it'll cost Hogg money and time.

[–] selson@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

I never really liked Carville. Didn’t have a reason until now. I feel a little vindicated tbh.

Fuck all these doormat ass Dems that have been sipping on my dime. Fuck em

[–] boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

How can somebody be as incompetent and useless as long as James Carville and still have any kind of credibility?

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

When did he have credibility? He's been married to a hard-core conservative for decades, clearly he's never been offended by their politics. He was just a waterboy for the Clintons, who were nothing more than Republican-Lite.

Time for all those DINOs to hang it up. Weak rhetoric and action from weak-ass weenies like him and Schumer and Biden are the reason that Conservatism has steadily gained traction for decades, as Democrats fell farther and farther behind, until they literally allowed Nazis to overthrow our government. He can STFU, and GTFO.

And Hogg is Vice-chair of the DNC?! This is the first I've heard of that! Congratulations to him. He was the biggest fighter after the Parkland massacre, and I'm so glad that he's not only still in the fight, but has moved into a position of power. Young people like him and Max Frost give me slight hope for the future.

[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Carville represents controlled opposition

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 5 points 5 days ago

Carville's a senile attack dog who was briefly something in the 80s.

[–] Jaysyn@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

For what, asshole?

You sure sound nervous.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 days ago

Carville is an odious individual

[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago (3 children)

I have never heard of this Carville guy, but fuck him. He needs to be thrown out of the democratic party. Let him go play these MAGA style games with the racists.

[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 days ago

He's one of the architects of the current right wing DNC

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

One of Bill Clinton's campaign people who largely architected the current unelectable corpodem shitshow

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 5 days ago

He was the Waterboy for the Republican Lite Clinton administration. He's been coasting on that one resume entry for 30 years.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

Dude looking like bubbles from trailer park boys in those glasses