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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

daycare costs $2k a month? are they training the kids to be astronauts?

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[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (3 children)

USA so shit they gotta pay people to make babies here

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[–] nathanjent@programming.dev 17 points 21 hours ago

After he rolls this out he'll start pushing to drop the child tax credit arguing, "they already get so much investment up front. They're so greedy."

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

According to my halfassed search engine results, giving birth costs on average $18,000.

Just the cost of epidural, estimates range from $1000 to $3500 out of that cost.

[–] Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz 32 points 1 day ago (6 children)

As someone who lives in a country where giving birth is free that sounds absolutely insane to me. Are these birth costs in the US at least covered by common medical insurance or is it always that bad? It's a miracle that the US birth rate is one of the highest in the western world when the conditions are like this...

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 29 points 1 day ago

After my son’s birth in 2006, we owed $12,000 after insurance. That was a single night’s stay in the hospital. Nothing out of the norm for the birth. We had to refinance the house the following year to pay off his and our daughter’s birth from 2005.

[–] 93maddie94@lemm.ee 13 points 23 hours ago

I think my hospital bills were around $5,000. What I didn’t anticipate was the fact that once my daughter was born I was paying hospital bills for me and for her. I think without insurance it was around 30k? So insurance covered 25,000 and we paid the rest

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[–] DirkMcCallahan@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember the stimulus checks that covered approximately 15 days' worth of rent?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 10 points 22 hours ago

Remember? I'm still living off of mine!

Oh wait, that was just some right wing delusional bullshit that disappeared as quickly as it materialized.

[–] KelvarIW@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Free daycare and free healthcare for people under 18 are two social services that would only benefit parents. How about free college tuition moving forward?

This is just a sad attempt making an exclusive version of establishment Dem stimulus checks...

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago

Idk, it seems like US doesn't even have the basic shit going on, any of that is a good news.

[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 4 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Additionally, government supplemented/paid for day care is the only way to pay the teachers fairly. Given places often aim for 4 students:1 teacher, you already have a hard cap of 4*monthly fees for salary for that one teacher. I pay 1.2k/ month, so a teacher can get a max of 4.8k/month if EVERYTHING went to them, which we all know it doesn't due to taxes, administrative staff, utilities, facility fees, etc.

However, if they raise fees, they price people out of a much-needed service at a time when folks typically haven't reached their max earning potential yet.

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[–] pappabosley@lemm.ee 10 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

We had this in Australia for a while, where there was no hospital costs for birth, and almost 20 years ago, so it was a considerable help. The conservatives started claiming people were having babies just to get the money and then spending it on big TV's and other luxuries.

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 10 points 20 hours ago

Sounds like classic Conservative projection.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 7 points 21 hours ago

Which is hilarious because iirc it was a fucking Howard policy

[–] endeavor@sopuli.xyz -3 points 9 hours ago

Lmao no it doesn't

Americans aren't that stupid

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Why only after the baby is born? Is there something significant about the moment of birth or something?

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 13 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Yeah, clearly an embryo/fetus is a child with rights at the moment of conception (/s), so why wait until after delivery?

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[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Isn’t it like ~$310,000 to raise a kid to 17? That’s, what, 2% of what is needed after the poor child is born? And some woman is going to decide to let a guy nut in her for $5000?

[–] yourgodlucifer@sh.itjust.works 13 points 23 hours ago

This won't even cover the medical costs to give birth

[–] ace_of_based@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

Even Elon pays better than this

[–] griff@lemmings.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“White babies only please” —Cheetolini

[–] garbagebagel@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I know you were half joking but for everyone else here complaining that 5k ain't shit (I agree, it's not), it's because the incentive is not for you. It's for rich people (read: rich white people, since poverty disproportionately affects non-white people).

5k might not mean shit to you in trying to raise a child but for someone who already has the means to have/raise a kid, it's actually bonus money. That's the incentive.

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[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 22 hours ago

More ineffective Band-Aids.

The core issues never get addressed. Prices keep going up.

And those issues will get worse under a corpo like Trump.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Have 4 kids.

5k is couch money when you have kids. It'll maybe take care of a few months of daycare. Now if you're on gov assistance and make next to nothing? This will be great, but don't expect to get a job or climb out of poverty with 5k. A kid will eat that up super fast.

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