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Canada should move towards integration with Europe instead of the U.S. (www.policyalternatives.ca)

submitted 1 day ago by streetfestival@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

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Trump warned he will impose additional tariffs on the European Union and Canada if they band together to “do economic harm” against the United States.

Get @#$%ed, Trump. Good read. Short but detailed about how partnered we are already and what our next priorities should be

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[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

We’re done with the US but we’re also not joining the EU, although we have great allies there.

[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 hours ago

You mean you are done with the US and you are not joining the EU and not all Canadians feel this way.

A national survey conducted by Abacus Data in late February 2025, involving 1,500 Canadian adults, revealed:

44% believe the Canadian government should “definitely or probably” explore joining the EU.
34% are opposed to the idea.
23% remain undecided.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It’s time to part ways with the toxic US.

[–] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

https://imgur.com/gallery/bugs-bunny-sawing-off-us-from-canada-x0hZLvF

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Trump deserves nada.

[–] logi@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

You think it's somehow fair that he gets 2/3 of a neighbouring country?

[+] Bloomcole@lemm.ee -13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No thanks.
We have enough right-wingers in Europe already.

[–] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 10 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

So, when you generalize canada in your mind right-wingers is what comes to mind? Or just the govt?

[–] Dearche@lemmy.ca 0 points 4 hours ago

Hard to call Canada not right wing when basically 90% of the country is voting for central right and far right parties. Liberals haven't been even slightly left leaning for a long time. The most generous way to describe them is a party that uses left leaning policies to achieve right leaning goals.

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

This is from a European view and while not the US the political spectrum suffers from the same problem.
What some Canadians consider left is only relative.
So this is your 'liberal' party?:
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2024/12/30/cypl-d30.html

And it's a simple verifiable fact that voters decide on the goverment, so maybe it's only in your mind that they're not right-wingers.
Maybe it's an uncomfortable truth?

[–] Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

No...our "liberal" left-wing party is the NDP.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 17 hours ago

Almost 45% of our voting population are voting for the Conservatives. That’s a lot of people who desperately want to be the 51st state and live under authoritarianism and fascism.

Why they don’t just move there is beyond me. I would gladly see every single Conservative voter move to the America they want us to be. Canada don’t need them or their kind.

[+] turnip@lemm.ee -19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

If we write off the US what does that do to our standard of living?

Assuming pipelines are obviously orders of magnitude more efficient than shipping by tanker. It also then still requires a pipeline to the east coast as a first step, which we cant get built due to Quebec, who ironically import all their energy from the US. All these costs and we then have to compete with countries on that continent who can build pipelines to Europe.

Given our small population we are the 4th largest exporter of oil and our loonie essentially tracks oil prices, hence it makes up such a large component of our standard of living. This idea we can pivot seems silly at first glance, but I'd like a differing opinions if one exists.

[–] FireRetardant@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe if we are so economically dependent on a finite substance that damages every part of the planet it touches, we should think of changing the priorities of our economy. Quebec is great at producing energy with its hydroelectric plants generating about 1/3 of all electricity generated in Canada. Quebec is also decent at saving energy being only the 8th largest energy use per capita of the provinces.

It is just wrong to claim Quebec imports all its energy from the US when Quebec actually exports a lot of electricity to the US while importing fossil fuels. Quebec could be far more energy independent if it focused on electrifying more stuff, the opposite is true for fossil fuels in Quebec.