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[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Notice how the Israel issue is a lot quieter now despite being worse?

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 18 minutes ago (1 children)

I mean, the US election is over.

And Russia won.

So, I imagine they're all hungover to fuck from the celebrations really.

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech 1 points 3 minutes ago

Israel won. Hungary won. India won. Russia won. That must be all the winning Trump talks about, we just export it to our adversaries

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 3 points 9 hours ago

Yeah. And that pisses me off.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago

And the world is just going to watch this genocide occur cause some people believe their race is superior to all and makes claims to lands 2000 years in the past.

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Between the genocide in Gaza and what’s coming for the West Bank, Palestine might not exist in the next few years. Survivors scattered to the winds.

It’s incredibly sad, but honestly foreseeable. The right wing shift in the west is killing what little sympathy and press coverage there was.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The following should be taken as a bit of a ramble because I want to express this idea I have, and I don’t think it should be taken as any sort of attempt to correct or challenge what you’re saying because I don’t think what you’re saying is in any way incorrect.

I think the right wing shift is a mirage that is being perpetrated by corporate-owned media. That’s not to say that every media outlet is racist or is explicitly attempting to push a narrative, but I think that the large corporations in the U.S., at least, that own news media have a vested interest in not offending both monied and powerful interests. In that regard they are avoiding reporting on topics that will rally the public, or are outright changing how they report on certain topics.

Which is a lot of words to say that I think what we’re seeing is false consensus driven from the top down, rather than a ‘bottom up’ shift in opinion. I think many of the normal folks are ill-informed, or outright propagandized.
Doesn’t change the outcome, or the opinions held by so many, though… sigh

[–] sensiblepuffin@lemmy.funami.tech 1 points 2 minutes ago

While I think you're correct, it doesn't matter if the consensus is false. People believe it to be so, even though they're categorically wrong, and now the minority actually has control of the government.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 1 points 17 minutes ago

The right wing in many countries have been funded by either domestic oil or Russia, there is endless documentation of this going back decades.

But we literally fall for the same gimmick every single time anyway.

[–] fossilesque@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

That should be obvious as soon as you step off any social platform or physical space controlled by capital. Capital has always been a tool for conquerors.

[–] Coreidan@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

In other words the media is propaganda and always has been. Shocker.

[–] skvlp@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I’m fearful that the current US presidency is the final nail in Palestines coffin. I hope I’m wrong, but I don’t expect them to hang on in time for the next election.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] 3laws@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

In Soviet USA the President chooses the next election.

[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They haven't run out. They've been prevented from restocking.

[–] mkwt@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

"Because they were prevented from restocking, they are now out of food, but this condition need not continue if they are restocked.". Is that good enough?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

As much as I hated the Biden admin being pro Israel, too - at least they exercised some oversight. This is now gone and Netanyahu and his ilk can finally live out their darkest dreams.

That this sort of activity comes from the Jewish of all people, in the 21st century, is appalling.

But let's not forget Trumplon's part in all this. He is the big enabler here. Come judgement day (and I mean that very secularly) he will sit with Netanyahu. Well they might both be dead by then, but I have no doubt that history will not look kindly upon them.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Protest voting the Democratic Party over Palestine was and remains utterly baffling to me.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 day ago (12 children)

What do you mean, Kamala would have done the same thing!

  • absolute fucking morons
[–] pulido@lemmings.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Kamala would have done the same thing.

Democrats have never shown a willingness to challenge Israel on anything.

The "absolute fucking morons" are the ones who thought kamala would be any different.

Maybe Bernie would've done something different, but neo-liberals don't like him.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 7 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Kamala would have pushed for a plan to forcibly relocate everyone in Gaza to random surrounding countries so she could build a resort there? Kamala would have put an AI-generated video of Gazans living in luxury and idolizing gold statues of her? Deported student protesters on valid visas? Trump took a shit on your face and Gaza suffers more now, with zero hope whatsoever for any pushback from this fascist administration who applauds Israel's every step

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 6 hours ago

Trump took a shit on your face and Gaza suffers more now, with zero hope whatsoever for any pushback from this fascist administration who applauds Israel's every step

100%

It amazes me how far morons will go to justify tacitly supporting naked fascism for purity politics and their own moral purity in the face of the immoral outcomes of their choices.

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[–] cogman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Not to me.

Biden's and by extension Kamala's Israel policy was functionally identical to Trump's. The atrocities happening under Trump were happening under Biden. The only thing that's changed is now that Trump is in charge it's become acceptable for left leaning media to criticize that policy. Under Biden, outlets like MSNBC literally fired everyone with even an incling of pro Palestinian rhetoric. They framed genocide protestors as antisemites.

And it wasn't just Biden. Practically the entire DNC was 100% behind Israel.

The people protesting had friends and family killed by US muntins that the Biden admin never even hinted at threatening to reduce, even after Israel doing things like murdering aid workers. Even after blowing past every single "red line".

Go watch Antony Blinken talk about Israel. It's disgusting, but there really was no difference in rhetoric between him and the current Trump admin.

You don't understand the protest vote because, like Biden, you didn't look into or care about the protesters until it became something you could use to bitch about Trump or voters that didn't do what you wanted.

And yes, I voted for Kamala and told everyone to vote for her. Her campaign shat the bed by chasing right-wing voters and by ignoring the genocide their admin continued to aid. "At least I'm not the other guy" does not work or inspire votes.

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[–] 3abas@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

We Palestinians will never be quiet when someone tries to whitewash Biden. This was his genocide, he made up seeing beheaded babies and used to justify slaughtering our babies, and he mocked us at every turn when we begged for a ceasefire.

Trump is only allowing Israel to continue the genocide, Biden's and the Democrats' genocide.

[–] answersplease77@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

it's gone because news dont cover it

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 10 points 1 day ago (4 children)

damn, hopefully saudi arabia, qatar, dubai, oman, egypt, or any other trillion dollar petro states can step up and help out

maybe egypt needs to open the gates so they can let aid in?

[–] Doorbook@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

What a dump take, instead of saying “we have to stop the war criminal, genocide entity” you saying “why no one taking them” like wtf at least read about the history or look over the map instead of making bland useless and irresponsible comments.

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone 0 points 19 hours ago

what are your thoughts on the sudan war?

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (17 children)

They don't give a shit. Anyone who shows any kind of help or sympathy will be pressured to take on what? 1.5 million people? No one in that area wants that kind injection of foreigners.

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